I start a Work Placement

paulineb_2

Chester666666 wrote: »

they still seek to force the unemployed to work there as do dunelms

as for charity work - it isn't always that easy to find

A quick search in the area the op lives in would suggest otherwise.

paulineb_2

red_devil wrote: »

your wrong there are people working in charity shops who are asked to by the courts as community payback.

I'm sure there are but according to your earlier post the only people who volunteered in charity shops were people with criminal records.

That's not the case. Which makes you wrong. Not me.

paulineb_2

As I said before, many colleges give fee waivers for part time courses. Or you can do certain courses through volunteer centres.

I did my course in sports coaching through a volunteer centre and the job centre had no objection to that.

If all people can do is highlight reasons why they shouldn't do something, they shouldn't be surprised if their life stagnates.

paulineb_2

Another poster asked the op what he has done over the years to make himself more employable. I'd be really interested to know the answer to that one.

Because there are plenty of ways you can without spending any money.

The RSPCA charity shop in his area puts volunteers through a retail qualification. Many charity shops are desperate for volunteers.

szam_

paulineb wrote: »

As I said before, many colleges give fee waivers for part time courses. Or you can do certain courses through volunteer centres.

I did my course in sports coaching through a volunteer centre and the job centre had no objection to that.

If all people can do is highlight reasons why they shouldn't do something, they shouldn't be surprised if their life stagnates.

Absolutely agree.

If the likes of red_devil and GG started looking at the positives of the things they constantly bemoan, rather than single out the negatives, they'd be employed and earning a decent living for themselves.

It's frustrating reading their short-sighted "oh pity me" conspiracy theory like views on why they shouldn't do anything anyone suggests, when I have known people desperately asking for help and looking for work only to be rebuffed and told there is no funding for them. Some of the things I read, excuses about why they shouldn't have to do something, my friends would have killed to have a chance at. Luckily all my friends found work, after a bit of hard work forging their own paths.

red_devil

paulineb wrote: »

I'm sure there are but according to your earlier post the only people who volunteered in charity shops were people with criminal records.

That's not the case. Which makes you wrong. Not me.

No i meant it was a mixture oc volunteers, forced placements and criminals. What a mix.

red_devil

szam_ wrote: »

Absolutely agree.

If the likes of red_devil and GG started looking at the positives of the things they constantly bemoan, rather than single out the negatives, they'd be employed and earning a decent living for themselves.

It's frustrating reading their short-sighted "oh pity me" conspiracy theory like views on why they shouldn't do anything anyone suggests, when I have known people desperately asking for help and looking for work only to be rebuffed and told there is no funding for them. Some of the things I read, excuses about why they shouldn't have to do


something, my friends would have killed to have a chance at.

Luckily all my friends found work, after a bit of hard work
forging their own paths.

not necessarily so, all for working but dont agree with workfare or lose your benefits. Dont agree with firms getting free labour continually either most sane people wouldnt.

szam_

red_devil wrote: »

not necessarily so, all for working but dont agree with workfare or lose your benefits. Dont agree with firms getting free labour continually either most sane people wouldnt.

Proving my point. All you can see is negative.

Sorry, but debating with you is pointless, head shoved so far up your... yeah, you get the point. Good luck avoiding work.

paulineb_2

red_devil wrote: »

No i meant it was a mixture oc volunteers, forced placements and criminals. What a mix.

Thats not the case in every single charity shop. No one in the charity shop I worked in was there on a community payback order.

As for the forced placements. A number of the young people who volunteered in the shop I did actually asked that their placements be extended, they enjoyed it so much. And again, the charity was willing to put people through qualifications.

As for criminals. Lots of people enter the criminal justice system for a number of reasons, it doesnt mean that they need to be written off forever.

marybelle01

paulineb wrote: »

A quick search in the area the op lives in would suggest otherwise.

That is assuming that nobody from the Third Sector in East Lancashire (a) browses this board or (b) has otherwise come across the OP. Wanting a volunteer and wanting the OP as a volunteer are not really the same thing.