iPhone..or not?

JJ_Egan

baby_frogmella wrote: »

Your friends will be much more iMpressed if you get a [STRIKE]iPhone[/STRIKE] girlfriend

As yer granny has an iphone ipad these days the brand is no longer kool .

Glad no smartphones back in the sixties i would have had no time for SD&RR .Dylan would never have written a single line as to busy texting .

J_B

WTFH wrote: »

You really hate Apple products, don't you? What is your reason for feeling the need to come out with this same tired response every time someone asks about them?

I don't just concentrate my dislike to Apple - I still have a 3Gs in the drawer, we still use it for music - I dislike anything that is 'fashionable' especially if it is more expensive than comparable stuff.
This is MSE remember

I replaced my iPhone with a Nexus4 - t'was around half the price and does everything that I need - does that make me mean or sensible

criboo

The iPhone is pretty nice, but it should be, it's very expensive.

I would keep in mind that you're paying for the brand name and the iconic styling more than you are with other phones. If that's important to you then I'd consider taking a look at the HTC One, it's very good looking, very fast, has a better screen and very good speakers for a phone. The camera is of debatable quality, but the iPhones don't win any prizes for their cameras. If I had to walk into a shop tomorrow and buy a new phone, it'd be the HTC One.

EDIT: I would add that EE are doing 20GB 4G data with the HTC One and the Galaxy S4 for £38/mo with £50 up front fee. Considering the top-tier contracts associated with these phones I'd say that represents pretty good value.

anotheruser

Question: Why do you specifically want an iPhone?

Yes, it seems like most people have one but in fact, they don't.

Most iPhone users don't know why they have an iPhone. It isn't because of the apps, nor is it because of the design of the hardware, it's purely just because they think it is "cool".

I spoke to someone who was asking about new phones.
They had already decided they wanted to stick to Samsung. I told them they were naive. They limited their possible phones to less than 5 sticking to Samsung.

iPhone:
As others have said, iPhone and Apple are a closed system. While this is good as people have said, everyone gets updated at the same time, it's not the greatest as it's very restricted in what you can do.

Android:
Android is a good system but isn't without it's flaws. The UI on Apple and Android is so similar it may as well be the same (more or less). You click little icons to get to where you want to go.

Windows Phone:
Windows Phone is excellent but is still lacking some core apps. However that list is dwindling day by day as more and more apps are ported over. In a year or so time, it will be the easiest and cleanest phone to have in your life.

Contract Cost:
The downside with the iPhone is (unless you get it sim free - at additional cost), you will pay over the odds for a contract that will be 24 months in length and by the time it ends, you will be so sick of your out of date phone that you'll be happy to jump ship.

Phone Apps:
If you've purchased any apps on Android, expect to purchase them again on Apple.

The other and last consideration to keep in mind is look at the revisions of the iPhone...

iPhone 1 (June 2007)

iPhone 3G (July 2008):
This is where the iPhone suddenly became "cool". The fact is was new and worked nicely. Android was taking it's baby steps at this point and Microsoft's mobile system was in tatters.

iPhone 3GS June (2009):
Any real changes? Nope.

iPhone 4 (June 2010):
Well, significant changes here. Glass. So a great change. It increased in popularity significantly.

4S (October 2011):
Any real changes? Nope.

iPhone 5 (September 2012):
Any real changes? Nope.

5C and 5S (September 2013):
Any real changes? Nope. Sorry, I believe a fingerprint scanner was added. Like this is used on a daily basis...

While other phone manufacturers (certainly HTC a few years ago, Samsung and Nokia currently) flood the market with similar phones, it is poor show from the "premium" manufacturer. Shame.

baby_frogmella

^^^ when did the iPhone 5 get a finger print scanner? Have you ever used it to conclude "like this is used on a daily basis"? Have you ever used both an iPhone 3G and 3GS? Do you know what a 64 bit operating system is?

wiogs

"iPhone:
As others have said, iPhone and Apple are a closed system. While this is good as people have said, everyone gets updated at the same time, it's not the greatest as it's very restricted in what you can do."

Really?

That's new one, I can do lots on my iphone, not sure what I am missing

Rev

grumbler wrote: »

IMHO, this can be an advantage. If the phone works fine, I don't want any updates. On the other side many iPhone users have problems after forced updates and can't return to the previous version of iOS.
Firstly, it's during the first year only unless

you've bought it directly from Apple
OR
pay through the nose for the extended warranty
OR
are prepared to pay ~£150+ for getting even a minor fault fixed (except, probably, a battery replacement).

Secondly, you have to leave close enough to Apple store that isn't the case for many people.
At least most Androids have 2-year warranty and you can make the supplier to do all the job for you. With an iPhone most suppliers do their best to fob you off and to force into dealing with Apple directly without their intervention.

P.S. It isn't my intention to start another debate. I am just trying to clear some facts for the OP.

Yes the phone may be working great but the latest apps don't work. Aren't compatible with that version of android etc. I agree about the forced updates. I hate iOS 7 but have no option to roll back to iOS 6.


I've had a lot of phones. A few faulty ones. Had to send a sony phone back once. Three times they sent it back to me without sorting the repair. I was without a working phone for over a month. Same with a Samsung, but they only needed two attempts to repair it. Once I took my iPhone back and left ten minutes later with a new one. Apple will replace by post too, which is what most manufactures offer. But at least you know you'll get a working phone back as they will just replace. Either way, sorting a fault with Apple it easy.


I know which of those experiences I find preferable.


It was bought from O2, so not directly from apple, and I paid £38 for the extra years warranty from an O2 shop. Hardly a massive amount. I just registered AppleCare with this phone as the warranty runs out next month. Paid £35 through eBay. Apple wanted proof of purchase. I sent them a paypal receipt and they registered it. All done in ten minutes.

martinthebandit

As an alternative have a look at the Nokia's running windows, the 625 at about £150 sim free seems an absolute bargain to me.

anotheruser

baby_frogmella wrote: »

^^^ when did the iPhone 5 get a finger print scanner? Have you ever used it to conclude "like this is used on a daily basis"? Have you ever used both an iPhone 3G and 3GS? Do you know what a 64 bit operating system is?

64-bit? on a mobile phone? Hardly using all that power, so it's sort of wasted, just sucking power from the battery for no reason.

People thought barcode scanners were all the rage and the return of QR codes seemed likely but when was the last time you used a barcode scanner. I know I haven't in the last 6 months and I didn't have to use it when I did!

RE the fingerprint scanner - CLICK
"With iPhone 5s, getting into your phone is faster and easier with Touch ID—a new fingerprint identity sensor."
Oh sorry I see this is for the 5C - a whole new phone with one extra feature!

wiogs wrote: »

anotheruser wrote: »

iPhone:
As others have said, iPhone and Apple are a closed system. While this is good as people have said, everyone gets updated at the same time, it's not the greatest as it's very restricted in what you can do.

Really?
That's new one, I can do lots on my iphone, not sure what I am missing

That's because you haven't used an Android phone to the full potential.
Android will allow you to change many settings, it's more of a "power-user" type of phone, but is just as good at "just works", like the iPhone. However the iPhone won't allow you to change internal system settings, tweak this or that. It's great for out of the box looking good, but no good if you like to tweak the system to make it better.
You can read about this all over the web.


Also be aware, by supporting the iPhone, you're supporting a company whose CEO said "you're holding it wrong" in answer to a support query about the signal issues on one of the iPhones (4?).

You're also supporting a company whose CEO told a student "please leave us alone" instead of directing them to the press office or support centre.

Just a bad company really, only at the top because of their innovation, which I agree is first rate. But that doesn't mean I want to support a company that, when you look through the products they have made, is just awful.

Kite2010

baby_frogmella wrote: »

^^^ when did the iPhone 5 get a finger print scanner? Have you ever used it to conclude "like this is used on a daily basis"? Have you ever used both an iPhone 3G and 3GS? Do you know what a 64 bit operating system is?

Like there is many aps which are designed to make use of the 64 bit processor of the Huawei Ascend D Quad, sorry iPhone 5S.

For a second there I thought the iPhone 5S was first, but like most things in the past couple years they are not