disabled train pass question - accompanying adult

nannytone_2

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Of course you do, whether asked to show it is irrelevant as long as it's valid. Not sure why you would think otherwise.

you said that she would be asked to show her card for inspection on the train ....
i was just pointing out that no one has ever asked to see mine.m xo although i have the vard, no one has ever bothered checking.
its the same with renewing them...
they ask for proof when you get your first, but then they keep renewing automatically.

akso there is no photo identification, so no way to cjeck that the card actually belongs to the passenger or not

~Chameleon~

nannytone wrote: »

you said that she would be asked to show her card for inspection on the train ....
i was just pointing out that no one has ever asked to see mine.m xo although i have the vard, no one has ever bothered checking.
its the same with renewing them...
they ask for proof when you get your first, but then they keep renewing automatically.

akso there is no photo identification, so no way to cjeck that the card actually belongs to the passenger or not

Just because no one has ever asked you for your card, it doesn;t distract from the rule you need to present you card whenever asked.

cattermole

I'm surprised there is no photo on it, this seems a bit open to abuse doesn't it?

cbrown372

cattermole wrote: »

I'm surprised there is no photo on it, this seems a bit open to abuse doesn't it?

No more so than any other rail card that doesn't have a photograph such as a senior rail card.

tinkledom

cattermole wrote: »

I'm surprised there is no photo on it, this seems a bit open to abuse doesn't it?

Nope none at all. Just the name and the card number. It's a bit like the Blue Badge scenario. These cards are shared amongst many families and friends, especially when used for long distance trips. The Adult Disability Card allows 2 people to get 30% off any ticket at any time - unlike the other cards which restrict their use outside peak times and are for one person only.


A Trip to say Glasgow return first class from the South coast would normally cost £294, with an ADC the price is £194. A saving of £100 per person. Over a year with multiple persons using the card the savings can be enormous!!

~Chameleon~

cbrown372 wrote: »

No more so than any other rail card that doesn't have a photograph such as a senior rail card.

Nor a 16-25 student card.

~Chameleon~

cattermole wrote: »

I'm surprised there is no photo on it, this seems a bit open to abuse doesn't it?

You have to be in receipt of DLA to obtain a disabled rail card. They check.

cattermole

:eek: So some dishonest disabled person could give it to anyone for a day out and their companion! Age cards are slightly different because it's a bit easier to tell by just looking at someone! Although I thought student ones well 16-25 did have a photo on them?

https://secure.16-25railcard.co.uk/login-or-register?ReturnUrl=%2f

Blue badges do have photos on them!

And so do bus passes

Strange that seniors and disabled don't have photos on rail cards so it is open to abuse so it seems !!

preciousillusions

Thanks all . In the end I went to meet her at the station and we got our tickets together. She did ask the ticket inspector earlier in the day what to do and he said that he couldn't sell her the ticket but that she could 'technically' use the ticket machine to buy it, but said she should not tell anyone he had given her that idea & that she could still get stopped at the barrier anyway! So she declined that option just in case.

Savvy_Sue

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

You have to be in receipt of DLA to obtain a disabled rail card.

No, you don't.

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

They check.

Yes, they do check, but the eligibility requirements are far wider than being in receipt of DLA. This is a summary:

You may qualify if you:

• Receive disability-related benefits, including Personal Independence Payments
• Are registered as deaf or use a hearing aid
• Are registered as
  visually impaired
• Have epilepsy

You do have to sign the card. You could presumably be asked to give another signature if fraud was suspected.