disabled train pass question - accompanying adult

Morglin

tinkledom wrote: »

Of all the years and times I have used my card, no one has ever questioned if the person I am travelling with is helping me off the train. I regularly travel on my own from the South coast to London St Pancras, get a taxi to London Euston, get a train to Manchester Piccadilly, change platforms, cross a bridge and get my final connection to Bolton.

Of course you do......:whistle:

As you state elsewhere, you are very disabled, do you tap dance up and down the platform as well? :rotfl::T

Lin :wall:

tinkledom

Parva wrote: »

Purleeze moderators, can't you dispense with this idot? It's obviously a sport to him, for me I have to live with the disability I have unwantedly been given but the Andy's of this world should at least be getting some payback for their consistent harassment, please at least pm me the IP in order that I can file an @abuse complaint.

I have to live with my disabilities as well!!


I'm not harassing anyone. I'm telling you what happens to me when I use my Adult Disability Railcard.
Additionally I live in the real world and have yet to find or hear of anyone that has been questioned by the train manager over the use of that card. I doubt that anyone else has. Further there is no rule that says that the card holder cannot travel alone.


I have also mentioned a scam that is quite active on the commuter services into London - you may want to believe that it doesn't happen, but it actually does.


There is nothing in the rules that dictate that the accompanying passenger has to get on at the same station as the card holder does. What is shown is that any ticket bought with the use of the railcard has to be shown to the train manager along with the card. As the accompanying passenger is getting on further down the line, the card holder is already on the train.

tinkledom

Morglin wrote: »

Of course you do......:whistle:

As you state elsewhere, you are very disabled, do you tap dance up and down the platform as well? :rotfl::T

Lin :wall:

Your choice to believe it or not, I don't care.


And since when has it been acceptable on this site to ridicule a disabled person?

cattermole

Parva wrote: »

Purleeze moderators, can't you dispense with this idot? It's obviously a sport to him, for me I have to live with the disability I have unwantedly been given but the Andy's of this world should at least be getting some payback for their consistent harassment, please at least pm me the IP in order that I can file an @abuse complaint.

They are not going to pm you the IP don't be ridiculous make a complaint by all means and they will check it out as they did with mine the other day and deleted a lot of posts and one thread. And all you are doing here is further taking the OP's thread off topic which is not achieving the aim you want at all. And they make it quite clear they don't read every post as they are a very small team trying to administer a massive forum.

Back on topic to OP and others

I rarely travel on the train but a few weeks ago we did go on the train to visit a relative in Essex. We purchased return tickets from Euston on the tube (bit of a mix up really but that's another story).

Anyway on the way back from Upminister (plain clothed ticket inspectors) boarded the train, they were extremely thorough in their inspections of tickets including questioning us on the type of ticket we had and we had to explain how we had bought it as it was not available from Upminister. They were perfectly pleasant and the guy opposite said he had been travelling on the tube for years and never come across it before. They were very pleasant and described themselves as "the secret squirrels".

Anyway OP they could pick up on the fact you were on your own when you first boarded the train to be later joined by a companion. It may be unlikely but it is possible and when I have been on a local train they do seem to know who has got on at each station and who's tickets they have already checked. So best to travel together if you can I think.

Poppie68

Tinkle....You seem to forget it's Flo thats severly disabled thats why you spent thousands on a new kitchen and hoists etc, you have already admitted you now claim DLA fraudently as you have failed to inform the DWP of the improvement in your condition, so you are also using a disabled persons railcard fraudently!
Your never getting through them pearly gates with all these lies..

cattermole

Poppie68 wrote: »

Tinkle....You seem to forget it's Flo thats severly disabled thats why you spent thousands on a new kitchen and hoists etc, you have already admitted you now claim DLA fraudently as you have failed to inform the DWP of the improvement in your condition, so you are also using a disabled persons railcard fraudently!
Your never getting through them pearly gates with all these lies..

That's assuming any of it was true in the first place?!!!! Why give him what he wants? :eek:

Anyway back on topic

I think OP my point was really that they are tightening up on this sort of thing a lot which is understandable.

Savvy_Sue

Cyclamen wrote: »

I don't know much about train travel .. but can see there might be a potential problem..
if the purpose of the discount was that you needed assistance with the journey on the train.. if that is the case wont they question the fact that she is not boarding with you? although logically you are likely to need help at the other end.

They don't care whether or not you need assistance, or whether or not your companion is giving you any. I have occasionally been asked if I need help when I show the card, but that's unusual.

One of my [STRIKE]spouses [/STRIKE] siblings has one because of deafness, and says their spouse is as much use as a chocolate teapot when they travel together: can't hear announcements either.

I often buy tickets on the train (no ticket station) and am regularly asked to show the card when I buy the ticket (although I always have it ready anyway, and they don't always seem to care). If tickets are checked later or on the return, there seems to be less interest in it.

Last night I was on the train with DH and had forgotten we'd boarded through a barrier, so we'd each got our own tickets. He had my railcard and showed that and his ticket. I thought he'd shown both tickets ... and had to be prompted to find mine.

Anyway, summary: the companion can't generally board without a ticket (I'm not saying you'd never get away with it), and can't buy a disabled ticket at the station without the card. You can buy online without any checks, but for the part of the journey where the companion is travelling alone, that would be wrong.

Edited to correct a much earlier typo. But I've left the original in place or what follows won't make sense.

nannytone_2

One of my spouses has one because of deafness, and says their spouse is as much use as a chocolate teapot when they travel together: can't hear announcements either.

blimey sue! are you a bit of a swinger in private?
ONE of your spouses .... and their spouse is useless ...
so they have another spouse as well?

im shocked

Poppie68

nannytone wrote: »

One of my spouses has one because of deafness, and says their spouse is as much use as a chocolate teapot when they travel together: can't hear announcements either.

blimey sue! are you a bit of a swinger in private?
ONE of your spouses .... and their spouse is useless ...
so they have another spouse as well?

im shocked

:eek:I'm just glad i was sat down when i read her post.

cattermole

:rotfl: I was thinking the same Nanny and Poppie