Breaking Through, Travelling On

DedicatedDFW

Hi KC,

Good for you for challenging what you were being taught - i wonder how many others there just listened and accepted everything they were told?

I did like that too about the frogs miraculous connections

With tea drinking, shopping feet-up and a games night later it all sounds like a lovely weekend I am now pondering if its cards or board games - as you're going out to play i don't think you're a gamer which you'd do from home.

** has image of KC replying saying she and her friends are going out to play hide and seek **

Karmacat

Hide-and-seek :rotfl: no, its board games it started with about 8 of us after the college diploma course in the early 1990s, then went down to 3 of us by the turn of the millenium, and then the new husband of my friend joined in, so there's four of us, and thats how its stayed for about a million years now :rotfl:

ZTD

DedicatedDFW wrote: »

Good for you for challenging what you were being taught - i wonder how many others there just listened and accepted everything they were told?

Never, ever, *ever* just take anyone's word for *anything* - even (most especially) mine. Always work through it in your own mind, and work it out - proven or disproven - for yourself. You might think "I can't do that!" - but even rocket science isn't actually rocket science. It's fast, hot, and potentially explosive - but not difficult to understand. Most things are understandable to some degree or other.

Taking things on "faith" - is religion (in another one of it's many forms). Always try to at least find the origin of things, and if you can't work through it yourself, find someone who can, and who actually has. Some things have grown because people has faith in people who had faith who had faith in people who had faith. The consequences of that range from the trivial to the rather tragic.

Karmacat

A powerful post, Z. I'd no idea about Spock! Your main point, about do your own research, yes - if I'd done that with the French apartment, instead of trusting the projections, I'd never have bought it.

I'm off now for second breakfast (like a hobbit ).

Ellidee

Er am I being fick ? What was tragic about Spock ?

ZTD

Ellidee wrote: »

Er am I being fick ? What was tragic about Spock ?

Well, from the link ( ) "as many as 50,000 infant deaths in Europe, Australia, and the US could have been prevented had this advice been altered" (the advice being to lay infants on their front). That number is approximately the number of US soldiers who died in the Viet Nam war.

Or the excess death rate of an under-performing NHS trust - your choice of statistics...

Ellidee

Aah I didn't see that . Thank you Mr Z xx

ZTD

Karmacat wrote: »

A powerful post, Z. I'd no idea about Spock! Your main point, about do your own research, yes - if I'd done that with the French apartment, instead of trusting the projections, I'd never have bought it.

I did some research for the XOH's sister/BIL about a Spanish apartment during the boom. They were going to buy it from a "friend" who also happened to be a financial advisor...

The conditions were such, that not only would their eyes be taken out, but the sockets as well. Even at the time, at the height of the boom, they could have bought better (detached house rather than apartment) for literally half the price. :eek:

I'm not sure what the commission rate was, but the "friend" would have walked away with tens of thousands of pounds. Of course now, post bust - it would be lucky to be worth a quarter of the mortgage they'd still be paying on it.

I do have "Follow the money!" in my siggy for a reason...

ZTD

Ellidee wrote: »

Aah I didn't see that . Thank you Mr Z xx

You're welcome Mrs Dee... :kisses3:

Karmacat

At least I never fell for a Spanish apartment deal :eek: I was offered one, with the friend I'm going to see tonight, and we had it assessed by a Spanish lawyer qualified in England too - she said it was illegal, my friend wanted to go ahead because everyone was doing it, and I asked why we'd paid out £500 for legal advice if we weren't going to take it

Been out in the garden again today - emptying bags of leaf mould, mixing them up with bark (erm, I don't think I kept them terribly well watered ) weeding done, tidying done, in a few months time, I'll be planting perennials into that, and they'll be *so* happy :T

Scooting off now to my (board) games evening hope everyone has a good'un.