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Steps to take if you have been ripped-off by a copy-cat government website

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  • gik
    gik Posts: 1,130 Forumite
    hpuse wrote: »
    London 2012 dodgy tickets sites were taken down for the exact reason - misleading. As I said earlier, enforcement was easy.

    To be exact: this is the wordings used by the judge, search-n-nourish yourself if you do not believe me::rotfl:

    ASA has already issued a few cases for misleading.

    PS: These ticketing site also had legal "disclaimers" stating they are not affiliated with Olympic Assosiation or do not represent official ticketing sales.

    Anyone here to bet, how long these "legal" copycats would stay?
    I would say a maximum of 12 months, :T

    Telling lies does not strengthen your argument - you do understand that? If you don't you've lost.
  • hpuse
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    No they weren't. They were taken down because it was illegal for Olympic tickets to be sold by anyone other than the official site. It wasn't misleading, it was downright illegal.


    I see. So you don't believe me when I say they mislead. I have to post this link, righto ? Here you go...

    http://www.oft.gov.uk/OFTwork/consumer-enforcement/consumer-enforcement-completed/olympic-ticket-selling/
  • peachyprice
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    hpuse wrote: »
    I see. So you don't believe me when I say they mislead. I have to post this link, righto ? Here you go...

    http://www.oft.gov.uk/OFTwork/consumer-enforcement/consumer-enforcement-completed/olympic-ticket-selling/


    So by your logic, if they had said in bold font on the front page 'THIS IS AN ILLEGAL OLYMPIC TICKET SITE' they wouldn't have been taken down? They were only taken down because they didn't say that?

    Interesting.
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  • Valli
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    Valli wrote: »
    Selling dodgy tickets isn't the same thing.

    Your choice of words (and those you make up) does not help your posts; your words and meanings are as woolly as the websites you purport to despise.
    hpuse wrote: »
    It's not my words - it was trading standards, the enforcement authority who shut down dodgy London2012 ticket sellers. You could check that for yourself.
    MY post (relevant part quoted for clarity) had multiple paragraphs.

    In one I addressed the issue that selling dodgy tickets isn't the same thing (as offering a service).

    In the second I criticised your 'muddled' use of language.

    They were two SEPARATE, DISTINCT points. If the two had been connected they would not have been in separate paragraphs.
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  • shaun_from_Africa
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    edited 14 February 2014 at 10:02PM
    hpuse wrote: »
    I see. So you don't believe me when I say they mislead. I have to post this link, righto ? Here you go...

    http://www.oft.gov.uk/OFTwork/consumer-enforcement/consumer-enforcement-completed/olympic-ticket-selling/

    Did you even read the website that you linked to?
    Yes, they mislead customers, but this wasn't why they were prosecuted and closed down.
    The OFT has taken Court action to stop a number of Norway based companies run by Andreas Gyrre from offering tickets for the London Olympic Games, when in fact they are not authorised to sell those tickets
    ...
    The OFT has also recently taken informal action against 236 other websites, operated by other traders, which were similarly offering Olympic tickets for sale, without being authorised to do so, to prevent consumers from continuing to be misled by them.
    ...
    The OFT has taken Court action to stop a number of Norway based companies run by Andreas Gyrre from offering tickets for the London Olympic Games, when in fact they are not authorised to sell those tickets
    ...

    The OFT has also recently taken informal action against 236 other websites, operated by other traders, which were similarly offering Olympic tickets for sale, without being authorised to do so, to prevent consumers from continuing to be misled by them.

    The only misleading going on was due to the fact that the sellers concerned did not inform their customers that the tickets they were buying came from an unauthorised supplier and hence might not be valid, but this is not the reason they were closed down.
    The exact reason for legal action taken was:
    The OFT has taken Court action to stop a number of Norway based companies run by Andreas Gyrre from offering tickets for the London Olympic Games, when in fact they are not authorised to sell those tickets, and there is a real risk that they will be unable to supply many of the tickets they have sold to consumers
  • keyser666
    keyser666 Posts: 2,140 Forumite
    Did you even read the website that you linked to?
    Yes, they mislead customers, but this wasn't why they were prosecuted and closed down.



    The only misleading going on was due to the fact that the sellers concerned did not inform their customers that the tickets they were buying came from an unauthorised supplier and hence might not be valid, but this is not the reason they were closed down.
    The exact reason for legal action taken was:
    To further add to shaun, this was in relating to websites owned by Norweigan companies, the ones that run all these passport, driving licence sevices sites are all UK based.

    So again hpuse you post a link to something that has no relation to your original post.

    All smoke and mirrors with you. You cant find anything to substantiate your claims, you go and find something else and spout that and even then cant get that right.

    Can I ask a couple of questions?

    1. Where were you born?
    2. What is your day to day job?
  • gik
    gik Posts: 1,130 Forumite
    keyser666 wrote: »
    To further add to shaun, this was in relating to websites owned by Norweigan companies, the ones that run all these passport, driving licence sevices sites are all UK based.

    So again hpuse you post a link to something that has no relation to your original post.

    All smoke and mirrors with you. You cant find anything to substantiate your claims, you go and find something else and spout that and even then cant get that right.

    Can I ask a couple of questions?

    1. Where were you born?
    2. What is your day to day job?
    3. What age are you?
    4. Does the bill payer know?
    5. Who are you?
    6. Are you real?
  • hpuse
    hpuse Posts: 1,161 Forumite
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    edited 15 February 2014 at 1:07AM
    Did you even read the website that you linked to?
    Yes, they mislead customers, but this wasn't why they were prosecuted and closed down.



    The only misleading going on was due to the fact that the sellers concerned did not inform their customers that the tickets they were buying came from an unauthorised supplier and hence might not be valid, but this is not the reason they were closed down.
    The exact reason for legal action taken was:


    Yes,misleading.
    That is the exactly what these dodgy copycat government websites are doing.

    They are "legally" misleading where as london2012 dodgy websites illegally mislead.
    Does that make any difference? Would you still like to deny that as a fact?
  • hpuse
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    edited 15 February 2014 at 1:08AM
    keyser666 wrote: »
    Can I ask a couple of questions?

    1. Where were you born?
    2. What is your day to day job?
    3. What age are you?
    4. Does the bill payer know?
    5. Who are you?
    6. Are you real?

    Answers
    1. forums.moneysavingexpert.com
    2.posting here to feed my ego?
    3. born in 2007 - so do your math?
    4. bill "payer"? - does money matter?
    5. who are we??? ( haha, rather say - I am scared of reading these posting ?)
    6. No, I live in galactic and you do not need a passports to be here - so no copycat websites.


    :rotfl:
  • gik
    gik Posts: 1,130 Forumite
    hpuse wrote: »
    Answers
    1. forums.moneysavingexpert.com
    2.posting here to feed my ego?
    3. born in 2007 - so do your math?
    4. bill "payer"? - does money matter?
    5. who are we??? ( haha, rather say - I am scared of reading these posting ?)
    6. No, I live in galactic and you do not need a passports to be here - so no copycat websites.


    :rotfl:

    So in a nutshell you are in agreement with us that you are a genuine bonifide arse?
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