caught walking instead of wheelchair

45002

45002 wrote: »

OP Could end up on YouTube like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUnjiKXujoM

http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/VIDEO-Ex-bus-driver-claimed-couldn-t-walk-unaided/story-18143627-detail/story.html

clarryd

I have genuine problems walking and standing but can not get DLA as they seem to think I am okay even after doctors say I not. The man next door is getting ESA and DLA and he can dance the fan dang go but because he is one of those people who get everything they apply for.

I walk with a stick (he walks great) but do not need a wheelchair, I hardly ever go out from my house ground, spend loads of time in the garden and like you I do not need my walking aid in the garden or in the house as things are positioned so I can have a rest of a sit down when ever I need to. I have told DWP that I have furniture and chairs positioned and I think that is why I don't get DLA but at least I told them as like you any one could tape you and there is very little you can do about it.

Cyclamen

Clarryd

I don't know your health conditions and am definitely not asking but I would say keep trying and go to appeal if needed. I have quite a few online friends who have been successful in appeals.

It might be worth a look at 'the benefits and work' website but it costs to get their guides.. i've just subscribed and am finding it really useful.

I would be careful judging anyone else as we just don't know what happens at the times we can't see them.. my neighbours only see me on good days (ok I have sticks and wheelchairs etc) but they still get a skewed image of my life..

twice last year i went swimming with a friend as far as anyone else could tell looking through pool window.. but it was my carer out of uniform (i get embarrassed easily) who had dressed me before getting to pool and helps me shower change after, wheels me in etc.. but to anyone walking past the window they would have seen me 'swimming' with a friend and not everything else going on and the days recovering.

It is so hard for anyone to judge a health condition from a short glimpse of someone else's life. Some people do play the system and that is wrong but as long as you have been honest in forms and interviews things should be OK.

princessdon

Cyclamen wrote: »

Clarryd

I don't know your health conditions and am definitely not asking but I would say keep trying and go to appeal if needed. I have quite a few online friends who have been successful in appeals.

It might be worth a look at 'the benefits and work' website but it costs to get their guides.. i've just subscribed and am finding it really useful.

I would be careful judging anyone else as we just don't know what happens at the times we can't see them.. my neighbours only see me on good days (ok I have sticks and wheelchairs etc) but they still get a skewed image of my life..

twice last year i went swimming with a friend as far as anyone else could tell looking through pool window.. but it was my carer out of uniform (i get embarrassed easily) who had dressed me before getting to pool and helps me shower change after, wheels me in etc.. but to anyone walking past the window they would have seen me 'swimming' with a friend and not everything else going on and the days recovering.

It is so hard for anyone to judge a health condition from a short glimpse of someone else's life. Some people do play the system and that is wrong but as long as you have been honest in forms and interviews things should be OK.

That's irrelevant if you have been truthful. I wrote my grans AA claim. I never said she cannot walk as she can, I never said she cannot dress herself as she can, never said she can't cook a meal as she can.

I honestly described her needs and have records of the care we pay for, the number of night time call outs to carers etc. people could video tape her at any time, day or night and nothing would show anything different to what I disclosed on her form. She uses a wheelchair for distance but can walk short periods and reliably (she doesn't fall walking into the doctors). If anything I gave more "wiggle room" the other way on her form (more good than bad days).

I can't see why anyone could ever be worried about being taped as surely they were honest on their forms.

marliepanda

You also say 'caught' walking not accused of walking.

You have clearly been dishonest.

If I was accused of shoplifting and I hadnt, I certainly wouldn't say I was caught shoplifting.

rogerblack

Morglin wrote: »

An amateur video is not worth much, legally, as the DWP would need to film you themselves showing that you appear fit and fraudulently claiming.

The standard of benefits decisions is almost never 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.

They can take evidence from pretty much any source they choose to - if it is actively sent to them.

rogerblack

princessdon wrote: »

I can't see why anyone could ever be worried about being taped as surely they were honest on their forms.

Can you tell me where you live?
I'd be really interested in moving somewhere where mistakes are never made.

Any time there is a decision, there is the chance of error.
The chance of error goes up if the decision is not clearly obvious, and requires the decisionmakers involved to fully read the original forms.

Valli

prawn_mayo wrote: »

I'm wheelchair dependent a majority of the time, I was having a good day that particular day. My neighbour and I used to be good friends, we had an argument and she said she has video evidence of me walking around my garden going back to July, I don't know if she said that to worry me and be spiteful but I was on crutches. I would like to know I far can you walk on crutches.

Challenge her to send it in then;)

My bet is she hasn't - or she would've sent it.:cool:

Indie_Kid

princessdon wrote: »

I can't see why anyone could ever be worried about being taped as surely they were honest on their forms.

I'd be worried due to misinterpretation - you can't see how much pain the person is in, etc. They may have walked to the shops seemingly with no problem; but you're not going to see them go into their house and be in bed for the next few days because of the pain this has caused.

princessdon

rogerblack wrote: »

Can you tell me where you live?
I'd be really interested in moving somewhere where mistakes are never made.

Any time there is a decision, there is the chance of error.
The chance of error goes up if the decision is not clearly obvious, and requires the decisionmakers involved to fully read the original forms.

In filming you? How can a mistake be made when someone is a 100% wheelchair user who then moves swiftly in the garden.

Of course human error occurs but when you can prove your original form was in no way contradictory in any form then you stand a good chance of an appeal.