sent for workfare placement when i already do voluntary work

sniggings

jacques_chirac wrote: »

No false outrage here, just pointing out the OP's disgraceful attitude, gives insight as to why they are long term unemployed.

Slave labour implies no payment - the OP is receiving JSA, housing costs, free healthcare etc. Another one that needs to look to the history books and see how far removed this is from true slavery.

you're scraping the barrel now, the OP would get those benefits either way.

So to claim that benefits are pay for that work is being daft.

all this type of work is doing is reducing the need in these types of places for paid employment and also keeping wages down.

AP007

red_devil wrote: »

My hitler has said i must go to a charity shop for 30 hrs a week as a placement. I already do voluntary work which I would have to leave to go there?

Is this right.

Did you ask the advisor?

anamenottaken

sniggings wrote: »

read the OP, they are already getting up and going to voluntary work.

But 4 or 5 days a week?
The voluntary work which would have to be given up if they worked in the shop 30 hours a week may be one day a week.

(I haven't trawled through the OP's other contributions to this board to see whether that is mentioned but I am sure I will be told if they are indeed getting up and into work by 9 am every day.)

sniggings

anamenottaken wrote: »

But 4 or 5 days a week?
The voluntary work which would have to be given up if they worked in the shop 30 hours a week may be one day a week.

(I haven't trawled through the OP's other contributions to this board to see whether that is mentioned but I am sure I will be told if they are indeed getting up and into work by 9 am every day.)

my post was in reply to someone suggesting the OP was laying in bed all day and this "job" would make him get out of bed, the op is already getting up, so no reason for such a comment.

Maybe spacey should have asked what days/hours they were already working before jumping to conclusions.

Chris357

jacques_chirac wrote: »

No false outrage here, just pointing out the OP's disgraceful attitude, gives insight as to why they are long term unemployed.

Slave labour implies no payment - the OP is receiving JSA, housing costs, free healthcare etc. Another one that needs to look to the history books and see how far removed this is from true slavery.

You are the one with the disgraceful attitude as have all of the of IDS disciples.

sniggings

Chris357 wrote: »

You are the one with the disgraceful attitude as have all of the of IDS disciples.

chances are they are either an OAP so they think they are better than us as none of their benefits are getting touched...yet, when they do start taking things away from them, I bet their attitude soon changes, or s/he is on low pay themselves so are trying to make themself feel better, by coming on here and making nasty unhelpful posts.

spacey2012

Spaceys conclusion is :
If you are receiving benefits and you could be working, you are a slacker.

Those that truly need them, the sick, the elderly, those struggling to bring kids up I support 100%

However doing some voluntary work and then signing on whilst the tax payer picks up the tab is not acceptable in my book.

If they are putting in the hours now in the same role, what is the problem.
failing this there is another option, get a paid job and stop expecting others to keep you.

That is my Conclusion.

imatt

sniggings wrote: »

you're scraping the barrel now, the OP would get those benefits either way.

So to claim that benefits are pay for that work is being daft.

all this type of work is doing is reducing the need in these types of places for paid employment and also keeping wages down.

Quite. But workfare also has the added effect of businesses competing not just on quality of produce, service and delivery. It distorts the market and encourages businesses to compete on wages as well. A spiral to the bottom of the barrel if you will.

And of course, what makes it even worse is the fact that highly profitable businesses and charities taking advantage of workfare are in effect receiving a government / taxpayer funded subsidy on part of their payroll.

sniggings

spacey2012 wrote: »

Spaceys conclusion is :
If you are receiving benefits and you could be working, you are a slacker.

Those that truly need them, the sick, the elderly, those struggling to bring kids up I support 100%

However doing some voluntary work and then signing on whilst the tax payer picks up the tab is not acceptable in my book.

If they are putting in the hours now in the same role, what is the problem.
failing this there is another option, get a paid job and stop expecting others to keep you.

That is my Conclusion.

many people on JSA have paid plenty in for the benefits they get, I have paid in for over 20 years.

I only claim as I was medically retired but not sick/disabled enough for ESA, I have had 2 interviews in 2 weeks so I am trying to find work, to blanket all those on JSA as slackers only makes you look like a sad persin, that posts in these kinds of threads to make yourself feel better about your sad life, if you are earning so much why on here? why not out spending it? fact is, you are either old and think you are better than the rest of us or on min wage yourself so trying to make yourself feel better by putting others down.

You and jacques want to get together and set up a bingo club or something, as your posts won't be missed here.

GwylimT

When I was on JSA I asked if I could take a voluntary role that was only one day a week but it was relevant to my skills, qualifications and would actually benefit me. I was told no as this would prevent me from job hunting, funnily enough they didn't consider 30 hours a week on placement in a shop would impact on my job hunting at all!