The Giving Up/ Cutting Down alcohol support thread - number 13

shaggydoo

Morning :hello:

1 more AFD for yesterday.



Shaggyx

shaggydoo

January:

= 7 Days AF

= 14 days AF

= 21 days AF

= 28 days AF

= 31 days AF

= target achieved



AlexLK 16/21

BaileysSoNice /10
Barny1979 16/28
BHB 22/31
BlueDaisy 17/27
BlueViolet 14/20
Chardonnay 12/19
DebJay 22/31
DoshWaster 14/25
Ellsbel 22/31
FakePlasticTwee 12/29
Fruball 13/23
Gien 9/25
GrassGirl 20/31
GrumpyOldGal 11/26
Helena 9/31
Honey Bear 22/31
Joanne109 16/30

Judi24 4/20

LavenderBees /31

Mackeroo 3/10
Maman 9/10
MotherOfTheWorld 18/31
MummyTo3Boys 9/20
PennySaving 20/30
Pippi 7/31
Pricey 7/20
Satchmo 22/31
Shaggy 16/17
SukeyBoo 9/12
StopLurking 16/18
WBF 7/14



Everyone Welcome! It's never too late to join....

Please highlight your AFDs in Red

Don't hesitate to let me know if I've made a mistake!

PennySaving

20/30 please. Happy Friday everyone!

Honey_Bear

Spiv wrote: »

Truly Honey Bear I wish it was as simple as you make out but sadly the facts are that it just isn't!.

I'm not sure how seriously I can take the Time Magazine journalism in this particular instance, although obviously the five year old research findings might make interesting reading if I could get hold of the original Texas university paper for free, but to be honest paying $6 for forty-eight hour's rental of it isn't on my agenda. It was originally published in Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research.

I am, however, in agreement with you that moderation in all things is a good thing.

The actual research paper the article is based on is titled Late-Life Alcohol Consumption and 20-Year Mortality which isn't quite the same thing as Time Magazine's headline of Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers. Strictly speaking, I suppose I'm inclined to find the idea of a journalist arguing that drinking is a good thing slightly biased, but that's just my stuff.

For reference, this is the abstract:

'Background: Growing epidemiological evidence indicates that moderate alcohol consumptionis associated with reduced total mortality among middle-aged and older adults. However, the salutary effect of moderate drinking may be overestimated owing to confounding factors. Abstainers may include former problem drinkers with existing health problems and may be atypical compared to drinkers in terms of sociodemographic and social-behavioral factors. The purpose of this study was to examine the association between alcohol consumption and all-cause mortality over 20 years among 1,824 older adults, controlling for a wide range of potential confounding factorsassociated with abstention.

'Methods: The sample at baseline included 1,824 individuals between the ages of 55 and 65. The database at baseline included information on daily alcohol consumption, sociodemographic factors, former problem drinking status, health factors, and social-behavioral factors. Abstention was defined as abstaining from alcohol at baseline. Death across a 20-year follow-up period was confirmed primarily by death certificate.

'Results: Controlling only for age and gender, compared to moderate drinkers, abstainers had a more than 2 times increased mortality risk, heavy drinkers had 70% increased risk, and light drinkers had 23% increased risk. A model controlling for former problem drinking status, existing health problems, and key sociodemographic and social-behavioral factors, as well as for age and gender, substantially reduced the mortality effect for abstainers compared to moderate drinkers. However, even after adjusting for all covariates, abstainers and heavy drinkers continued to show increased mortality risks of 51 and 45%, respectively, compared to moderate drinkers.

'Conclusions: Findings are consistent with an interpretation that the survival effect for moderate drinking compared to abstention among older adults reflects 2 processes. First, the effect of confounding factors associated with alcohol abstention is considerable. However, even after taking account of traditional and nontraditional covariates, moderate alcohol consumption continued to show a beneficial effect in predicting mortality risk.'

http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.1111%2Fj.1530-0277.2010.01286.x?r3_referer=wol&tracking_action=preview_click&show_checkout=1

This is the 'Giving Up/Cutting Down Alcohol Support Thread' and moderation is what most people choose to do, and some people are having a Dry January. I posted a link which contained some research findings about that very specific subject.

Ellsbel

Declaring early so as not to give in to temptation 23/31 please Shaggy.
Sorry to post and run but the winter blues seem to have struck this week, and I'm feeling a bit grotty:(

helena124

The score on the door today is 16/31 which isnt perfect but pretty good in comparison to other months. Great to read that all my fellow AFreers are doing well too.

Have a great weekend all

Helena xxxxx

grassgirl

Hello, can't remember what my target was but fast approaching if not hit, this perhaps 20 or 25

Today is day 23 for me, many thanks.

debjay

23/31 for tonight please. I won't be drinking this weekend and probably next as Saturday is 31st.

joanne109

Sorry - quick check in as about to pick up son.

Still wobbling on the wagon 18/30

I'll be back later


Jo

Fruball

14/23 for me please as I was not AF last night but will be this evening :j

Technically tonight is a SN for me so I will make 4/4 but I hadn't included it when I decided on 4 so a bit of a cheat on my part

Still, it is all good for my morale