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  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    We have a fair few folks working here who were born outside the UK as we struggle to recruit locally even with pay approaching £30k for fresh graduates. They are as hard-working and friendly as anyone else, perhaps more so.

    Immigration certainly doesn't seem broken to me!
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

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  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    Well I will let you know the biggest housing benefit scam of all.
    The Royal Apartments.
    Palatial apartments in prime locations that supposedly belong to we the public, let out to Royal Sycophants and Hangers On for token rents like a pound a year.
    But they won't allow TV cameras into their homes like White Dee did.
    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair
  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    edited 22 January 2014 at 1:14PM
    silvercar wrote: »
    you wouldn't have had a can of lager in one hand, a fag in the other and been mouthing off that you weren't left with enough money to feed your children.
    How do you know the TV reporter didn't supply the can of lager and the fag?
    What was the incentive to allow the TV cameras into their home when about 95% of the street had apparently refused?
    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair
  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    edited 22 January 2014 at 1:23PM
    Davesnave wrote: »
    They own their own house,
    would they look after it as well if it belonged to some sleazy slum landlord who was trying to evict them for not being able to keep up with the unaffordable rent?
    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair
  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    Perhaps the most significant comments I saw were from the young woman who said
    'Whatever you do they cannot take away your child benefits'
    and the (African) metal collector who said 'they breed to get a house and money from the Government. Soon the Government won't be able to afford to pay them all'
    As far as I can see, the attacks on benefit claimants are all being directed at single adults who will do as the African Metal collector said to keep their benefits. Just like the Philpotts with 12 kids.
    Kids who will probably do the same as their parents and have kids for the life on benefits.
    I have just read this thread through but nobody seems to have come up to a solution to this problem.
    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair
  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    To be fair, by the end the woman did seem to be trying. Though I was :eek: at the lack of parenting all round. "Oh, let's let my 5 year old out at night and let them hang around with drunks".

    I got the impression the unsavory characters were out on the street all the time. So the alternative would be to keep the kids locked up in that tiny house. :(
    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair
  • Angelicdevil
    Angelicdevil Posts: 1,707 Forumite
    Glen_Clark wrote: »
    I got the impression the unsavory characters were out on the street all the time. So the alternative would be to keep the kids locked up in that tiny house. :(


    I'm sure people growing up in tiny houses weren't adversely affected by growing up in tiny houses......
    I have a simple philosophy:
    Fill what's empty. Empty what's full. Scratch where it itches.
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth
  • BillJones
    BillJones Posts: 2,187 Forumite
    A little defensive Bill but then you've evidently nothing to fear from a bit of investigative journalism eh?

    Well no, nothing at all. We are all paid on PAYE, the amount is shown on our payslips, and on our P60, and we pay tax on it at the appropriate rate, automatically, just like any other office worker.

    I'm not sure what you think investigative journaism would show up.
  • BillJones wrote: »
    Well no, nothing at all. We are all paid on PAYE, the amount is shown on our payslips, and on our P60, and we pay tax on it at the appropriate rate, automatically, just like any other office worker.

    I'm not sure what you think investigative journaism would show up.

    You haven't quoted the bit of my post that states my confidence in that you work hard.

    I'm sure you've never, say, had a freebee lunch, or made an over-enthusiastic expenses claim, driven above the speed limit, accidentally taken home stationery from work or had a longer than permitted lunch break.

    The context for this is pointing the finger at people down on their luck with a pious, holier-than-thou attitude when it is doubtful that any of us are sin free.

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. If that's you, well done indeed.
    Mornië utulië
  • zarf2007
    zarf2007 Posts: 651 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    SnooksNJ wrote: »
    As an immigrant who entered the UK during the last Labour Administration, works, pays taxes, follows the laws, doesn't force Thanksgiving down people's throats how am I such a problem?

    You're not...its the 800,000+ that work for lower than minimum wage, dont pay tax and send most of their money home whilst using the NHS/other facilities that are...
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