is my employer being unreasonable?

PasturesNew

Re "lowest paid", I'd suggest that if you earn under £7/hour then you'd hypothetically, possibly, get a pay rise. But it might be just those on NMW that might get a rise - and maybe that's just in line with the NMW changes in the pipeline anyway.

BobQ

Your post is bizarre. You are not entitled to know what others are paid unless they are willing to tell you.

There are basically two relationships an employee can have with an employee. The first involves staff collectively organising themselves through a trade union to negotiate pay. The other is that you as an individual negotiate your terms and conditions as an individual. You appear to have the latter arrangement.

So forget what others are paid, try and negotiate your own pay. If you do not like what is on offer leave - they will soon give you a pay rise if they want to keep you.

tir21

19lottie82 wrote: »

You're over thinking things here. If your logic is correct then someone has a crystal ball, and you're intending on using this "insider knowledge" (that even your employer isnt aware of, apparently!), to get one step ahead of your bosses to make sure that you get the first dibs on a payrise.

Its not first dibs if im in the group that qualifies for a pay rise. There is no reason for it to be "insider information". What is wrong with someone knowing that when the company is in a position to offer pay rises then they will be in the group yhat qualifies

With all respect, you're being ridiculous. Who even told you this theory about only the lowest paid getting raises?

Hr department

Even if it is correct and more than gossip, I don't think your plan will over rule company policy.

There is no plan

If you want to ask for a payrise ask for one. If you get it, great. If you don't move on and get over it.

I have asked for a pay rise. Ive been told there are none in the pipeline but when there is a payrise I might or might not get a payrise, since only those on the lowest wages will get one

sniggings

how much do you think this pay raise will be, if anyone get one? in my experience, they are normally 1-2% so unless you are on a load more than min wage, you are probably only looking a £2-3 a week more and that's before tax, so not sure why you are so concerned, if you need a pay raise that badly, you are probably in the wrong job.

tir21

BobQ wrote: »

Your post is bizarre. You are not entitled to know what others are paid unless they are willing to tell you.

I havent asked what others are paid

So forget what others are paid, try and negotiate your own pay. If you do not like what is on offer leave - they will soon give you a pay rise if they want to keep you.

How many people do you know that are irreplacible though?

tir21

sniggings wrote: »

how much do you think this pay raise will be, if anyone get one? in my experience, they are normally 1-2% so unless you are on a load more than min wage, you are probably only looking a £2-3 a week more and that's before tax, so not sure why you are so concerned, if you need a pay raise that badly, you are probably in the wrong job.

That sounds like an argument for only the rich to ever get pay rises

themull1

Do you not know if you're on the lowest pay scale for your company? or do you not have pay scales?

sniggings

tir21 wrote: »

That sounds like an argument for only the rich to ever get pay rises

true but it's still the case that, even if you get one, and manage to not !!!! off your employer in the process, are you really going to see much of a benefit? now if we were talking the 11% for MPs which is about another £11,000 then that would be worth stressing about.

Bantex_2

Any reason why they should give you a pay rise?

19lottie82

Ok, sorry, you're right, I got the wrong end of the stick BUT I maintain my theory that you are over thinking this and agree entirely with BobQ - don't base what you think you are worth on what other people get paid.
If you're not happy and think you can do better, go and find a job that pays more, instead of working yourself into a tizzy about might or might not happen.

Also, how much are you expecting this potential payrise to be? As I have said, the economy is in a poor state at the moment, 2% might not be an unreasonable figure.

on a £16k wage that works out an extra £4 a week in your hand,

and on £20k, an extra £5 a week

and on £26k an extra £7 a week......... it's hardly a huge amount. Even if it was 3%, would it be worth getting so worked up about?

EDIT cross post with sniggings!