benefit cap and all the tory crap help

DragonFruit_2

swingaloo wrote: »

How come the style of writing and use of English has improved?

That is irrelevant and not what I was talking about
People are judging the choices of someone in a very difficult situation

Tiddlywinks

DragonFruit wrote: »

People are being disgustingly judgemental here, I think you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Attitudes like yours are what got us into this mess in the first place.

The OP asked for help - telling him to pay his rent (instead of loan repayments) first is not being judgemental, it's being sensible.

Asking about outgoings (when he is getting over £2k a month in benefits) is not being judgemental, it's being curious... I'd like to know how he's spending that much and still can't pay his rent.

DragonFruit_2

tomtom256 wrote: »

Sorry but I vote troll to.

Not allowed to work so claim ESA, been told this is wrong benefit and should be claiming PIP. Can actually claim both so highly unlikely they have had advice!

House was a state when they viewed.moved in and still went ahead with it!

Homeless and then moved home, seriously, get the story straight.

Sounds like another Andy username.

Surely though, even if you are 99.999% sure that it's a troll, there's always the chance that the person isn't a troll and so it's safer to offer help and support instead of judgement. I think that when you judge someone in this situation, you judge other people who are in similar situations and it isn't fair. If the OP is genuine then they're a vulnerable person in a very hard situation who needs support

tomtom256

DragonFruit wrote: »

Surely though, even if you are 99.999% sure that it's a troll, there's always the chance that the person isn't a troll and so it's safer to offer help and support instead of judgement. I think that when you judge someone in this situation, you judge other people who are in similar situations and it isn't fair. If the OP is genuine then they're a vulnerable person in a very hard situation who needs support

No I judge each story on its own merit and my view/opinion, being an open forum is that this is pure jackanory.

If you don't like my view hit ignore.

DragonFruit_2

tomtom256 wrote: »

No I judge each story on its own merit and my view/opinion, being an open forum is that this is pure jackanory.

If you don't like my view hit ignore.

It's not about me not liking your view. It's about the damage and harm it can cause, especially to vulnerable people, such as people in the OPs situation.

Indie_Kid

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

Asking about outgoings (when he is getting over £2k a month in benefits) is not being judgemental, it's being curious... I'd like to know how he's spending that much and still can't pay his rent.

And by asking and then getting an asnwer, you're also able to maybe suggest how OP cuts their outgoings.

Teahfc

I imagine if the ISP numbers were checked from a couple of posters in this thread they would be very very very similar to ones that have been used before ...;)

mikey_bach

DrGr wrote: »

i was incharge of lidle stores security

How long did you work for Lidl then?
If you are genuine and get awarded PIP then the benefit cap will not apply to you

Teahfc wrote: »

I imagine if the ISP numbers were checked from a couple of posters in this thread they would be very very very similar to ones that have been used before ...;)

I think three, two newbies and one old poster

SandraScarlett

DragonFruit wrote: »

That is irrelevant and not what I was talking about
People are judging the choices of someone in a very difficult situation

DragonFruit wrote: »

Surely though, even if you are 99.999% sure that it's a troll, there's always the chance that the person isn't a troll and so it's safer to offer help and support instead of judgement. I think that when you judge someone in this situation, you judge other people who are in similar situations and it isn't fair. If the OP is genuine then they're a vulnerable person in a very hard situation who needs support

DragonFruit wrote: »

It's not about me not liking your view. It's about the damage and harm it can cause, especially to vulnerable people, such as people in the OPs situation.

I am stunned by how quickly your spelling, grammatical skill and punctuation have improved in a very short time!!!! But you are saying that even if someone is 99.99% sure a poster is a troll, you should give them the benefit of the doubt, in case there's a wafer thin chance they're not.

So let me reverse that for you. If people are continuously replying to a bored child, who isn't back at school yet, or a saddo with nothing better to do, then when the person who is genuine asks a question, they're unlikely to get many replies, are they.


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Blindsided_2

I think it will take a lot longer than a couple of weeks for a pip decision?!