Windows Live Mail

macman

To go back to the original question (or one of them), OP no you do not need a Microsoft account to use Live Mail. It's a desktop program, not a browser based email system. You will however still neeed to log into the desktop if the user account requires it.
If the only problem you had with Thunderbird was setting up the server names, then all you needed to do was post the name of the ISP and someone would have supplied them for you.
The process for Live Mail will be broadly similar.

50Twuncle

macman wrote: »

To go back to the original question (or one of them), OP no you do not need a Microsoft account to use Live Mail. It's a desktop program, not a browser based email system. You will however still neeed to log into the desktop if the user account requires it.
If the only problem you had with Thunderbird was setting up the server names, then all you needed to do was post the name of the ISP and someone would have supplied them for you.
The process for Live Mail will be broadly similar.

I tried the standard settings
Incoming Mail (POP3) Server - mail.btinternet.com
Port (usually specified in 'Advanced settings') - 110
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - mail.btinternet.com
Port (usually specified in 'Advanced Settings') - 25
Account Name/Login Name - Your email address (including the "@btinternet.com" or "@btopenworld.com" part)
Password - Your BT Yahoo! password
But this failed to SEND !

Jivesinger

50Twuncle wrote: »

I tried the standard settings
Incoming Mail (POP3) Server - mail.btinternet.com
Port (usually specified in 'Advanced settings') - 110
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - mail.btinternet.com
Port (usually specified in 'Advanced Settings') - 25
Account Name/Login Name - Your email address (including the "@btinternet.com" or "@btopenworld.com" part)
Password - Your BT Yahoo! password
But this failed to SEND !

That looks similar to the info from here:
http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6876

Incoming Mail (POP3) Server - mail.btinternet.com
Port (usually specified in 'Advanced settings') - 110

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - mail.btinternet.com
Port (usually specified in 'Advanced Settings') - 25

Account Name/Login Name - Your email address (including the "@btinternet.com" or "@btopenworld.com" part)
Password - Your BT Yahoo! password

But what about the last bit - is SMTP authentication switched on?

Please note: if your client does not support SMTP authentication, you will not be able to use it to send your BT Yahoo! Mail messages.

50Twuncle

Jivesinger wrote: »

That looks similar to the info from here:
http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6876

But what about the last bit - is SMTP authentication switched on?

That's because it is.
Authentication is turned off...... (I tried P/W transmitted insecurely as well - same result)
Could this be being blocked by AVG I wonder ?
I have found a similar problem at https://community.bt.com/t5/Other-BB-Queries/Thunderbird-setting-up-problem/td-p/107417
But ours is on-going
It only has a single account
and I tried several Thunderbird installs/uninstalls - they were all the same

WTFH

No, authentication is turned off because you haven't turned it on. It's nothing to do with any other software, it's to do with how you have set up the mail. You can install and uninstall until the cows come home. If you don't set it up right, it won't work.

Go into thunderbird (or whatever mail client you are using), and make sure for sending that it is switched on - i.e you are using the email address and password when sending, not just when receiving.

Here's how another company explain it:
http://www.gn.apc.org/support/how-enable-smtp-authentication-mozilla-thunderbird-mail-mac-windows
(although for step 3, it's btinternet, not gn.apc.org, and for step 5, use the same username as for inbound)

50Twuncle

WTFH wrote: »

No, authentication is turned off because you haven't turned it on. It's nothing to do with any other software, it's to do with how you have set up the mail. You can install and uninstall until the cows come home. If you don't set it up right, it won't work.

Go into thunderbird (or whatever mail client you are using), and make sure for sending that it is switched on - i.e you are using the email address and password when sending, not just when receiving.

Here's how another company explain it:
http://www.gn.apc.org/support/how-enable-smtp-authentication-mozilla-thunderbird-mail-mac-windows
(although for step 3, it's btinternet, not gn.apc.org, and for step 5, use the same username as for inbound)

I will give that a try - thanks
But why does my Thunderbird set-up not need Authentication set ON ?
I am not with BTinternet - but mine is set to OFF and I can send without any problems

superrug_2

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/41560 ?????

I cant see any reason why this wouldn't work ?

superrug_2

Most spamming activity originates from users of unauthenticated email. By removing the ability to send emails without authentication, spam should be significantly reduced.
Setting up an email program and enabling SMTP authentication is easy. You usually switch it on by ticking a box called "My server requires authentication" in your email program's settings.
If you don't set up SMTP authentication, you'll get an error 530 failure message when trying to send email messages.

WTFH

superrug wrote: »

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/41560 ?????

I cant see any reason why this wouldn't work ?

It will work, but that requires someone to follow instructions.

superrug_2

lol SIMPLE mail transfer protocol , maybe renamed very soon