school fines for out of term holidays?

duchy

pollypenny wrote: »

You wouldn't gain anything. The training days were added on to the existing school year. If they came as a single entity at the end of any term, you'd need re have noticed.

You rather missed the point - the kids were still off for a day middle of term -even though there was no need for them to be as the teachers had done the training outside of school time ......so it was just an excuse for teachers to have a day off -and the kids had a disrupted week...which is never good educationally. It appears this school and their LEA operate to a bit of a double standard not wanting parents to disrupt education-but do it themselves when it suits.

nobodyspecial

How relieved and glad I am to read the "ex-teacher" part of your post. If you are so uneducated as to make the wild assumption that a child taken on a family holiday during term time is a (text removed by MSE Forum Team) then the education system has lost nothing with your departure.

laurel7172

Well, as an oversubscribed primary school in the state sector, we can and do remove children from the roll for *extended* holidays. I think the rule is 20 school days/40 sessions.

And we positively did not have a chuckle in the staffroom when a particularly self-entitled parent of an equally obnoxious child got their dates a day out.

duchy

laurel7172 wrote: »

Well, as an oversubscribed primary school in the state sector, we can and do remove children from the roll for *extended* holidays. I think the rule is 20 school days/40 sessions.

And we positively did not have a chuckle in the staffroom when a particularly self-entitled parent of an equally obnoxious child got their dates a day out.

What a fine example of teachers your staff room has....you sound very petty.

As twenty school days is four weeks it seems unlikely many parents would cross that boundary unless prolonged illness or other serious non vacation absence was also a factor so it seems an odd thing for professionals to find amusing.

bestpud

laurel7172 wrote: »

Well, as an oversubscribed primary school in the state sector, we can and do remove children from the roll for *extended* holidays. I think the rule is 20 school days/40 sessions.

And we positively did not have a chuckle in the staffroom when a particularly self-entitled parent of an equally obnoxious child got their dates a day out.

4 weeks isn't the norm for a family holiday so I can't imagine many will be bothered about that little rule.

FR_262

I did not make the wild assumption at all. Some parents genuinely don't realise the impact that taking their children out of school has.

And I am educated. To MA in Special Needs.

I also speak 4 languages (and the scripts), and have certs in bricklaying and plumbing. All have been useful in providing individual learning programmes for my pupils.

FR_262

A holiday is a luxury. Education is a necessity. This is why I think every day in school counts.

bestpud

The problem with teachers is they are wrapped up in a little bubble all day, where they are all important and can demand respect just because they are the teacher and they have the power.

For some, it's difficult to accept that the rest of the world are not their pupils and we don't wear the same blinkers or feel the need to hang on their every word.

Such is their need for power that they have to ridicule parents and pupils in their break and call children (text removed by MSE Forum Team) just because their parents don't toe the line.

It would be laughable if they were actually achieving but too many children are leaving without any meaningful qualifications.

Obviously that is the parents fault too! :rotfl:

totallybored

duchy wrote: »

You rather missed the point - the kids were still off for a day middle of term -even though there was no need for them to be as the teachers had done the training outside of school time ......so it was just an excuse for teachers to have a day off -and the kids had a disrupted week...which is never good educationally. It appears this school and their LEA operate to a bit of a double standard not wanting parents to disrupt education-but do it themselves when it suits.

I don't think she did miss the point. Teachers are contracted to teach for 190 days a year and work an additional 5 training days when the children aren't in school. The children will have still been in school 190 days over the school year. Most schools tag these 5 days on at the start and end of terms so they're not noticed as much as in the middle of term.

pinkshoes

FR_262 wrote: »

Not really. It's not me that's important, but the children's education.

I'm just the education provider.

And as another teacher, I see no harm in taking holidays during term time, so long as the holiday is a cultural/educational experience, and the kids make a effort to catch up with what they missed.

They'll often learn more during week abroad than they will in school.

What I do object to are "chav" holidays, where a kid misses a whole week of school just to sit by a pool somewhere hot and not venture out of the tourist resort.