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Landlord might have provided a fake signature on tenancy agreement

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  • nidO
    nidO Posts: 847 Forumite
    Sabrinah wrote: »
    Except there are terms and conditions with the tenancy agreement.

    And these say what, exactly?
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    Sabrinah wrote: »
    So, how can I questionned it so? Should I just sent him (or his solicitor) a formal letter with a copy of the cheque and the tenancy agreement?

    Yes, send him a formal letter.
    Then wait.
    Then follow it up with another letter.
    Then send a letter before action.
    Then take him to court.

    By that time you'll be about six months down the line.

    Alternatively, stop being so pedantic about nothing, give you own notice (if this will get you out quicker) and move out.

    Happy christmas!
  • Halle71
    Halle71 Posts: 514 Forumite
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    I'm also wondering how the signature can be forged if you were there?
  • nidO wrote: »
    And these say what, exactly?
    The Landlord hereby notifies the Tenant under section 48 of the Landlord & Tenant Act 1987 that any notices (including notices in proceedings) should be served upon the Landlord at the address stated with the name of the Landlord overleaf.

    I may have confused with something else but I just realized that the landlord address on the tenancy agreement is even incomplete (no postcode (in addition of fake signature)).
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Sabrinah wrote: »
    I am worried about the terms and conditions of the tenancy agreement that remain or not remain legally valid.

    Normally, I have to give two months notice before I leave the property : since the landlord signature is fake, do I have the right to leave before the months notice?

    Your 5 months into a six month contract? Leave before then, but u owe rent for the full 6 months.

    No he doesn't have to notify u of anything about his signature, nor can u break the tenancy.

    And u give 1 months notice, not two
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,736 Ambassador
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    If he signed it, it cannot be fake. A signature merely confirms agreement. These days you can even do digital signatures.
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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Sabrinah wrote: »
    The Landlord hereby notifies the Tenant under section 48 of the Landlord & Tenant Act 1987 that any notices (including notices in proceedings) should be served upon the Landlord at the address stated with the name of the Landlord overleaf.

    I may have confused with something else but I just realized that the landlord address on the tenancy agreement is even incomplete (no postcode (in addition of fake signature)).

    If u want that, stop paying rent. One of the very few reasons u may holdback rent is to get a valid address.

    The signature is not fake or false, u witnessed it. Let's say it is fake though, so what?
  • DaftyDuck
    DaftyDuck Posts: 4,609 Forumite
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    Sabrinah wrote: »
    The Landlord hereby notifies the Tenant under section 48 of the Landlord & Tenant Act 1987 that any notices (including notices in proceedings) should be served upon the Landlord at the address stated with the name of the Landlord overleaf.

    I may have confused with something else but I just realized that the landlord address on the tenancy agreement is even incomplete (no postcode (in addition of fake signature)).

    Pointless waffle. Postcode not needed, and the signature is not a fake. Even if it was, it would not matter in this case.
  • Sabrinah_2
    Sabrinah_2 Posts: 24 Forumite
    edited 24 December 2013 at 12:53AM
    mrginge wrote: »
    Alternatively, stop being so pedantic about nothing, give you own notice (if this will get you out quicker) and move out.
    If I give notice considering the tenancy valid I will have to stay in the property for eleven weeks (having or not having the housing benefit).

    If I give notice considering the tenancy not valid I could then leave in a week/any time before two months.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    OK - lets' cut through the cr*p!

    1) Forget this stuff about the signature.
    2) Do you want to leave, or stay?
    3) Have you been given Notice by the landlord?
    4) If yes, was it a S21 Notice and what were the dates on it?
    5) What is your tenancy status? Is it is Fixed Term tenancy?
    6) If yes, what date did it start, for how long, and when does, or did, it end?
    7) Is there a break clause in the tenancy agreement?
    8) If YOU want to leave - have you given Notice?
    9) If yes, on what date, and how much Notice?

    Once you have clarifies ALL the above questions, we might be able to advise you.
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