Crazy JSA Sanction

osdset

missapril75 wrote: »

There you go with deciding only one possibility. I was actually intending to avoid confrontation. How seriously I respond isn't going to make the slightest difference to your problem, so I was trying to make light of it.

That explains my lighthearted reply. What explains your insulting comment about hallucinations? Or were you not quite 100% serious, the same as me?

You seem to have an uncanny knack of missing the point, if someone tells you that they have seen something on a computer screen then retracts it a few days later, they are either.
a) Lying, or b) seeing things that aren't there, commonly known as having a hallucination. it's a factual description not an insulting term.

Am I not quite serious? Sarcastic would be more appropriate.

If your responses are typical of how DWP staff treat issues then it's hardly surprising that DWP staff get bad press, they ask for it.

nannytone_2

ehat possible motive would the woman who answers the phone gave for lying to you?
none at all.
she doesnt benefit from your misfortunes, so its most likely that the information on the screen had chamed.
not her fault... to think that she remembers your call in detail, amongst the thousands of other calls she takes is ridiculous.

sometimes the system messes up and that is very unfortunate for the people involved.

but to think they all have a personal vendetta against you is just silly

osdset

its most likely that the information on the screen had chamed.

The information was never on the system in the first place, that's been confirmed by the BDC.

not her fault... to think that she remembers your call in detail, amongst the thousands of other calls she takes is ridiculous.

As she has been actively involved with this issue for the last six weeks, and has spoken to me a fair bit over the phone, I would expect her to remember me especially as I don't give her the chance to forget, she knows me by name now and does not bother asking for my insurance number.

but to think they all have a personal vendetta against you is just silly

I don't think they all have a personal vendetta, but there is too much that just doesn't stack up going back to when I had the initial WCA, the amount of 'errors' are too many to be coincidence.

missapril75

osdset wrote: »

if someone tells you that they have seen something on a computer screen then retracts it a few days later, they are either.
a) Lying, or b) seeing things that aren't there,

Or what was on the computer the first time has been removed the second time. It happens. Things get deleted deliberately - sometimes no longer needed, other times insufficient space so some space made for something else. Or archived.

That's one of the more rather obvious alternatives that you don't seem to have considered. As per usual.

Default position: All DWP staff either lying or hallucinating.

missapril75

osdset wrote: »

The information was never on the system in the first place, that's been confirmed by the BDC.

You are wrongly assuming that all staff have the same access to the same computer systems. They don't.

Some have different systems to work with and where they work from the same systems they have different levels of access.

Yet again there's only conspiracy in your mind.

nannytone_2

some claims are just problematic.
once there has been an errpr. ot see,s almost impossible for the computer system to process that claim without the error reoccuring.

i had an error with my DLA reassessment.
i received a refusal letter, but for 2 months after 'the screen' was still saying no decision had been made.
i was lucky in as much as a decision maker decided to take responsibility for my claim going forward, and he had all the files pulled and reconsidered in less than a week.
do i think it was something personal?
no i dont.

when you consider the hundreds of thousands of claims that are being dealt with at any ome time, dont you think it is reasonable to expect a few problems?

osdset

missapril75 wrote: »

Or what was on the computer the first time has been removed the second time. It happens. Things get deleted deliberately - sometimes no longer needed, other times insufficient space so some space made for something else. Or archived.

That's one of the more rather obvious alternatives that you don't seem to have considered. As per usual.

Default position: All DWP staff either lying or hallucinating.

OK, so when I had the initial WFI the advisor informed me that the system had the prognosis, or time between reviews listed as 12 months, hence a mandatory referral to the WP. The same advisor told me months later when all the aggravation with the WP provider occurred that the prognosis on the system was 24 months and I should never have been referred in the first place.

12 looks so much like 24 that it's easy to get the two confused?

The DWP aren't in the habit of revising prognosis times upward, in my case they took notice of the tribunal recommendation which is rare, most people get 3,6,9,or 12 months. It's in the DWP's best interest to keep claimants going to WCA's as there's more chance they will fail one.

If there was a reasonable explanation for 12 changing to 24 why not just come out with it?

nannytone_2

so why was i gen 24 months?
why havent i been called for a WFI in the last 15 months?
i only have 4 months left yil my reassessment... why havent i been referred to the WP?

your stating all these 'facts' as if what happens to you happens to everyone/
but it doesnt.
your problems are peculiar to you and whilst unfortumate arent proof that youre being persecuted!

osdset

nannytone wrote: »

some claims are just problematic.
once there has been an errpr. ot see,s almost impossible for the computer system to process that claim without the error reoccuring.

i had an error with my DLA reassessment.
i received a refusal letter, but for 2 months after 'the screen' was still saying no decision had been made.
i was lucky in as much as a decision maker decided to take responsibility for my claim going forward, and he had all the files pulled and reconsidered in less than a week.
do i think it was something personal?
no i dont.

when you consider the hundreds of thousands of claims that are being dealt with at any ome time, dont you think it is reasonable to expect a few problems?

When the BDC persistently told me they had never received the original tribunal decision notification awarding me ESA WRAG, then lost two further copies provided by myself, I didn't think it was something personal. When they took six months to sort out the back payments, I didn't think it was something personal.

Since I have been standing my ground with a particularly nasty Work Programme provider, and JCP, it's become personal. I have highlighted things that JCP, and the provider would rather remain under the carpet.

If I come across as embittered, it's because I am.

osdset

nannytone wrote: »

so why was i gen 24 months?
why havent i been called for a WFI in the last 15 months?
i only have 4 months left yil my reassessment... why havent i been referred to the WP?

your stating all these 'facts' as if what happens to you happens to everyone/
but it doesnt.
your problems are peculiar to you and whilst unfortumate arent proof that youre being persecuted!

Are you support group or WRAG?