Nice People Thread Number 10 -the official residence of Nice People

zagubov

michaels wrote: »

OMG - first I simulpost with Doozer and then I joint dream with Viva - in my dream a window had been broken and lots of stuff had been sucked out which I was trying to gather up.

Sadly our trampoline seems to have been killed with the one of the legs ripped off and the net frame bent over at 90 degrees - no way i would have the strength to do that sort of damage :eek:

I once wondered if these twins had the same dreams. An extremely odd couple.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBtxX_9W4C0

LydiaJ

zagubov wrote: »

I do live in the top of a hill. Buut there's not that many trees.;)

I've visited low-lying countries near here via work and it seems to me we're the only country whose government's so negligent that we let houses disappear under water or fall into the sea. What in the world are we wasting our taxes on?

What does our government thinks it's for?

I don't think that's quite fair. It's the same problem as saying that the Swedes and Norwegians are so much better than we are at dealing with snow. It happens the other way round too - I remember visiting places in the gulf in the 1980s, where British ex-pats were complaining that because it hardly rains out there, they don't bother incurring the expense of building roads with cambers or with roadside drains so when it does rain (at all) the roads all flood. You invest money in protecting against the things that happen often, not the freak occurrences.

And this country *has* invested in flood defences, and better flood tracking and flood warning systems. In 2007, over 55,000 homes and businesses flooded. It's a lot less than that this time (fewer than 10,000 I think), despite a lot more rain over a much longer period, at a time when there aren't leaves on the trees (which help get rid of water from the soil). The Environment Agency report that 1.3 million homes and businesses are dry because they're protected by flood defences, without which they would have flooded. My friend on the Glos/Worcs border, whom I recently mentioned as having been so badly flooded in 2007, is anxious but happy so far that his village hasn't had any problems at all - he's not quite sure what works were done after the 2007 floods, but he knows that some things were done, and he's so grateful that whatever it was seems to be working so far. Furthermore, the Severn is ridiculously high and spreading about all over the place, but Gloucestershire still has mains water. Yes of course, there are still further improvements to be made, but it isn't realistic to suppose that we should have been so exceptionally prepared that even such unprecedented weather ought not to have caused any flooding of properties at all.

Now, if you get me on the subject of planning departments being apparently flood-oblivious, or householders in flood zones ignoring multiple warnings to get prepared and expecting the nanny state to keep the river under control, then that's different...

lostinrates wrote: »

Nice to see a new face, and fermi here. Welcome, both of you, to the nice person thread . Can we move on?

Seconded. Welcome to both of you. :hello:

GDB2222

I have to get somewhere two miles away in a couple of hours. Normally, I'd just walk over, but I'm wondering whether to take the car for safety?

Wind speed is forecast at just under 30 MPH. That doesn't sound too bad?

Ah! It's force 6 on the Beaufort Scale - Strong Breeze. "Large branches in motion. Whistling heard in overhead wires. Umbrella use becomes difficult. Empty plastic bins tip over." To be frank, listening to the wind howling, it feels a lot scarier than that.

Yorkie1

30 mph should be fine - I cycle in that sort of wind (albeit slowly - no change there then!).

fermi

lostinrates wrote: »

Nice to see a new face, and fermi here. Welcome, both of you, to the nice person thread .

Thanks. It's amazing how often this thread pops up when I'm doing a forum search for something else.

Yorkie1

Generali wrote: »

I went gliding over the Vale of York a few years back, that was fun.

Did you go off Sutton Bank, near the White Horse? Fabulous views all over the Vale, as you say, all the way down to Ferrybridge / Drax / Eggborough power stations all in a line

Doozergirl wrote: »

I had a phone call yesterday ...

Good luck, will be thinking of you.

lostinrates wrote: »

Only real issue here is not in the least weather related. ...

Glad to hear he's home safe and sound. Hope your back has eased and that you both have a relaxing, warm weekend.

lostinrates

LydiaJ wrote: »

I don't think that's quite fair. It's the same problem as saying that the Swedes and Norwegians are so much better than we are at dealing with snow. It happens the other way round too - I remember visiting places in the gulf in the 1980s, where British ex-pats were complaining that because it hardly rains out there, they don't bother incurring the expense of building roads with cambers or with roadside drains so when it does rain (at all) the roads all flood. You invest money in protecting against the things that happen often, not the freak occurrences.

And this country *has* invested in flood defences, and better flood tracking and flood warning systems. In 2007, over 55,000 homes and businesses flooded. It's a lot less than that this time, despite a lot more rain over a much longer period, at a time when there aren't leaves on the trees (which help get rid of water from the soil). The Environment Agency report that 1.3 million homes and businesses are dry because they're protected by flood defences, without which they would have flooded. My friend on the Glos/Worcs border, whom I recently mentioned as having been so badly flooded in 2007, is anxious but happy so far that his village hasn't had any problems at all - he's not quite sure what works were done after the 2007 floods, but he knows that some things were done, and he's so grateful that whatever it was seems to be working so far. Yes of course, there are still further improvements to be made, but it isn't realistic to suppose that we should have been so exceptionally prepared that even such unprecedented weather ought not to have caused any flooding of properties at all.



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I strongly agree.

As for the only country, how quickly we forget weather disasters in other countries.

Katrina? For an example.

Its earthquakes in Italy.....or look what's happening to Venice!

Tsunamis, hurricanes, etc...they happen. We are lucky that we have an Infrastructure to notice the impact of its loss of function. We're lucky to live in a country where shanty towns or homelessness are not seen as inevitable norms.

There are issues. Real issues. IMO some of them have some unpalatable answers that its probable we cannot stomach.

Generali

Yorkie1 wrote: »

Did you go off Sutton Bank, near the White Horse? Fabulous views all over the Vale, as you say, all the way down to Ferrybridge / Drax / Eggborough power stations all in a line

No idea. It was about 15 mins drive from Boston Spa.

Spirit_2

lostinrates wrote: »

We did sleep in.....I wa posting at about half eight or something I think?

Its too windy to make outside repairs safely but not too windy to secure stuff.

RP stopping in for weekend so we've decided to make some stew that will go done well and be not a lot of laborious cooking for my back.


I don't think there is much we can do tbh.


Can you see where your tile is from? Is it still gusty where you are?

Gusty - but mild relative to yesterday and overnight. OH and dog have gone for a run so he will report back on the state of the woods.

No horses along here today - still too wild.

SiroGarmr

My son just demanded his vitamins and now he's tanting because he wants to listen to 'mena' which is music, specifically 'The Ledge' by Fleetwood Mac.