Nice People Thread Number 10 -the official residence of Nice People

silvercar

PasturesNew wrote: »

If I am rummaging, there's no time constraint (e.g. to answer a ringing phone). Any rummaging can also stop immediately, not like a phone which you could drop onto the floor and worry about.

Rummaging for a cigarette packet and lighter, when you choose to, isn't the same as trying to find a phone, pick it up, press to answer it while driving. Also, a smoker would have cigarettes mostly to hand, expecting to rummage for them.... phone users have their phone in their bag not expecting to be called.

Also, with a phone, there's the distraction of "who's that?"

Phone users who answer their phone in the car probably have it to hand.

My phone links by blue tooth to the built in sat nav, so the number comes up on the screen. The button to answer the phone is on the steering wheel and the sound comes out of the radio speakers. So no need to distract other than a glance at the sat nav screen.

The only thing missing is texts, which sadly don't appear on the satnav screen.

lostinrates

purch wrote: »

Okay then.........apart from Exmoor, the Quantocks, Blackdown Hills, Glastonbury, Wells, Wookey Hole. Cheddar, Montacute, Selworthy, Dunster, Porlock, Axbridge, the Ancient Mariner @Watchet, Nether Stowey ...................................what has Somerset ever done for us ?????

That's a heavily edited list of NT highlights!

Given paddy ash down so where to go. . That amazing apple brandy. Mulberry. Hmm, given Saul somewhere to go. . Alice temperly. Given whats his face, cameron macintosh somewhere to go. lots of people hide put in somerset! Lots of rock to build Bath out of.

I tell you what is awful. Being east of the levels and being sent to hospital in Taunton. Bloody awful onerous drive. Its not the nearest hospital, there are at least two closer in miles, and four in time.

Have to admit, Taunton isn't a highlight of Somerset for me, but I know people who seem fond of it.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

If I am rummaging, there's no time constraint (e.g. to answer a ringing phone). Any rummaging can also stop immediately, not like a phone which you could drop onto the floor and worry about.

Rummaging for a cigarette packet and lighter, when you choose to, isn't the same as trying to find a phone, pick it up, press to answer it while driving. Also, a smoker would have cigarettes mostly to hand, expecting to rummage for them.... phone users have their phone in their bag not expecting to be called.

Also, with a phone, there's the distraction of "who's that?"

There is no distraction of whose that, not panicking, if you are MAKING a call.


I'm not opposed to the mobile ban in the least, I'm pro it. I'm just surprised there is such vehemence to a smoking one.

I think it should simply be a smoking while driving one, I see a lot of people smoking in work cars ( with writing on the side) which presumably is 'smoking in the workplace' if one is going to be pedantic.


I'd like better sized more stable drinks holders in cars and super long straws .

Frankly, most of the time, I wouldn't mind a potty in my seat too. :o. Its so distracting needing a wee.

Doozergirl

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Although IMO David Cameron is hardly one to talk.

At least those parents remembered to put their children in the car...........

Ach, don't tell me you've never left a child somewhere.

Nikkster

lostinrates wrote: »

I'm not opposed to the mobile ban in the least, I'm pro it. I'm just surprised there is such vehemence to a smoking one.

I think it should simply be a smoking while driving one, I see a lot of people smoking in work cars ( with writing on the side) which presumably is 'smoking in the workplace' if one is going to be pedantic.


I'd like better sized more stable drinks holders in cars and super long straws .

Frankly, most of the time, I wouldn't mind a potty in my seat too. :o. Its so distracting needing a wee.

Its the whole 'this is a crusade against smokers' thing I think.

I believe that smoking in a work vehicle is indeed prohibited as it is a 'workplace'.

I don't use my (posh alert) heated car seats as I find it very distracting for a similar (possibly more advanced in the process) reason!

LydiaJ

PasturesNew wrote: »

If I am rummaging, there's no time constraint (e.g. to answer a ringing phone). Any rummaging can also stop immediately, not like a phone which you could drop onto the floor and worry about.

Rummaging for a cigarette packet and lighter, when you choose to, isn't the same as trying to find a phone, pick it up, press to answer it while driving. Also, a smoker would have cigarettes mostly to hand, expecting to rummage for them.... phone users have their phone in their bag not expecting to be called.

Also, with a phone, there's the distraction of "who's that?"

So, as a smoker and a driver, would you agree with Nikkster's suggestion that smoking and eating are probably similar in their level of distraction while driving?

lostinrates wrote: »

Frankly, most of the time, I wouldn't mind a potty in my seat too. :o. Its so distracting needing a wee.

If we are really serious about making sure that drivers aren't distracted, we should ban children under the age of about 12 from travelling in cars.

neverdespairgirl

SOmething similar happened a few years ago near where my parents lived in SE London - a giant hole opened up one evening on Blackheath Hill (the A2). About the size of a bus. Caused, in that case, by old chalk mines. It's known there were lots of them, many illegal even at the time, but exactly where isn't always clear:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/3304403/London-living-Going-going-ground-beneath-their-feet.html

(Natch, being the Telegraph, the focus of the article about the hole is on local house prices.....)

PasturesNew

silvercar wrote: »

Phone users who answer their phone in the car probably have it to hand.

My phone links by blue tooth to the built in sat nav, so the number comes up on the screen. The button to answer the phone is on the steering wheel and the sound comes out of the radio speakers. So no need to distract other than a glance at the sat nav screen.

The only thing missing is texts, which sadly don't appear on the satnav screen.

I had no idea posh people did that!

Also, if you're on the phone you're having to process information, listen, reply, make decisions etc.

With a fag there's none of that

PasturesNew

They've decided to shut Worcester bridge now... so that's shut down Worcester town centre

PasturesNew

LydiaJ wrote: »

So, as a smoker and a driver, would you agree with Nikkster's suggestion that smoking and eating are probably similar in their level of distraction while driving?
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Yes, if you're eating something simple.

e.g. if I am going on a long journey, in the past, I've been known to pull into a petrol station, fill up the car and buy a packet of crisps, pack of sandwiches and some wine gums. I then get into the car and rip open the sandwich pack so I just have to reach ... but, the sandwiches I buy are cheap/small with simple fillings... e.g.a £1 egg/mayo, so not dripping with salads and meats that take two hands