Nice People Thread Number 10 -the official residence of Nice People

ladeeda

Good morning all NP's. Hope all are well rested and fit for whatever needs to be done today.

I woke up to a cold house this morning. Seems that last night, the least windy of recent days, the electric went off and knocked off my heating timer. The only interesting point about my heating woes is that I woke up to them which means I have slept!! Actually quite well too, about 6 hours, in a row with no interruptions for tea, midnight housework or online chatting.

Haven't read much (very little) of this thread but have picked up that Zag needs positive vibes today. Happy to send - hope it all goes as well as it possibly can.

Long grueling day ahead, better make a start...

Nikkster

michaels wrote: »

Were they nutters though - may be it is more akin to spending ones life on twitter or online gaming nowadays, some sort of escape from the 'here and now' into an internal reality?

Spirit wrote: »

The bit I am sceptical about, is the nature of the evidence for extinct emotions.

I would need to see the remains of one in a museum I think, or visit the site of where one landed/erupted when neanderthal woman had PMT and buried a flint axe in the head of neanderthal bloke.

I would also be sceptical about them being 'extinct' - surely much more likely that they are now expressed in other ways? Or being repressed, so becoming an unknown source of angst in modern life etc.

Nikkster

lostinrates wrote: »

Sue, you are not alone. . Frankly I', glad you are taking care of yourself!

That would go for both of you

lostinrates

Nikkster wrote: »

I would also be sceptical about them being 'extinct' - surely much more likely that they are now expressed in other ways? Or being repressed, so becoming an unknown source of angst in modern life etc.

This is exactly what I'd be interested in. My particular interest was relating behaviour to reason, in my case physiology. The behaviour was expressed but why...why, why.....a physiological cause for a behaviour expression doesn't generally just vanish, for example. But could were it a dietary imbalance, a poisoning or something.....

The need to express behaviour which 'we' have physiological or anatomical need to express is behind the way I keep animals.

For example, stabling is actually really poor way to keep horses generally. Effective circulation in the horse's distal limb requires movement as they have no muscles in their lower legs. ( and we further complicate by removing something I their feet from ground contact often which doesn't help). Its really basic, basic common sense yet traction of horse keeping, convenience and even 'rules' make this hard to contravene, stabling. ( I still want stables!)

Nikkster

LydiaJ wrote: »

Oh Nikkster.... It's "Don't give up who you are just because you and he are not identical." Oh, and lesson two is "Listen, try to understand and respond to legitimate concerns, but DON'T grovel and promise to change when he is being unreasonable." (Same lessons apply to both genders, but I've put "he" here because you're a straight female.)

I'm not convinced that was lesson one from the lir book of dating tips... Certainly wasn't how I read it (I was joking with my comment though)

I don't think I can think of many worse things than being with someone who is identical to me! I'm almost certain we wouldn't get on.

I'm sure I'm the one who is increasingly likely to be unreasonable. I'm used to looking after myself and doing as I please (likely to get worse now I am living on my own!).

lostinrates

Nikkster wrote: »

That would go for both of you

I'm ok:). I've been lots worse than I am this week.

zagubov

Nikkster wrote: »

I would also be sceptical about them being 'extinct' - surely much more likely that they are now expressed in other ways? Or being repressed, so becoming an unknown source of angst in modern life etc.

The book I linked to earlier discussed simple and complex emotions, and there seem to be current doubts how many simple emotions there are. It's a bit like having a spectrum or continuum of emotional states and deciding to draw boundaries at certain positions.

The emotions that appear and disappear historically are likely to be the complex ones, I think (although it was 15 years ago I studied this).

I remember we had to learn about "natural kinds" of things and was surprised to see how many ways cultures divide up the colour spectrum. Choctaw tribespeople use the same word for blue and green. There's a tribe somewhere that uses only a couple of words for colour ( I think it's "red-orange-yellow-brown" and "blue-grey- green- violet"). Come to think of it, the Romans didn't have separate words for blue and grey.

lemonjelly

LydiaJ wrote: »

Oh Nikkster.... It's "Don't give up who you are just because you and he are not identical." Oh, and lesson two is "Listen, try to understand and respond to legitimate concerns, but DON'T grovel and promise to change when he is being unreasonable." (Same lessons apply to both genders, but I've put "he" here because you're a straight female.)

This is a kinda thing that's confused me about a lot of people I know in relationships. Sometimes, the way they behave towards one another really confuses me. I cannot fathom why they act or say things that are clearly designed to be hurtful. & so frequently!

LydiaJ wrote: »

Lovely. The options as I see them are evening in a pub (without children) or wait for nicer weather later in the year and do Saturday daytime at an outdoor venue (maybe with children, especially if there's more than one NP with kids to bring - mine and michaels's,for example).

I must confess to more enthusiasm for the nicer weather option. Easter is quite late this year, which might give us more flexibility?

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

I wonder at what stage in modern medicine consulting a doctor was likely to do you more good than harm? Because in much of even relatively recent history, I do wonder if staying clear of the medical profession wasn't the better idea. Think of all those doctors cheerfully spreading (deadly) childbirth fever between a whole group of women in labour, and the newly-delivered, for example.

Or the "triple obstetric tragedy", when Princess Charlotte - an apparently fit, healthy young woman before she got pregnant - appears to have been starved and bled during her pregnancy to the extent that she and her baby both died, and the doctor then killed himself. Princess Charlotte was, remarkably, the only legitimate grandchild of King George III - remarkable, as he had 15 children. He did have up to 35 illegitimate grandchildren, who couldn't, of course, inherit the British or Hanoverian thrones.

Florence Nightingale too. Post-Crimea, she took to her bed for years wracked with guilt because you were more likely to die in her hospital than the field hospitals.

lemonjelly

zagubov wrote: »

With my performance on quizzes the best I can hope for are delusions of adequacy.

Thanks for all the positive thoughts. Been to pick up DD and bring her here so she can go in tomorow.

Anyhoo, for music-loving NPs have I recommended this site yet. It's not Spotify, but it's free, user-friendly and you get videos to look at.

http://neverendingplaylist.com/#!/artists/lemon-jelly/AR5BPPP1187B9ACB9B

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lostinrates

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/523191681682664857/

Not sure that link will work.

Weather is making me quite enthusiastic at maybe speeding up building a kennel for the dogs. I was thinking of a play house with a picket fence for them, not a standard kennel, most especially as its going In a bit of the garden we can see I'd like it to be pretty, but.....

While I was googling found this pretty pretti 'normal' kennel. Not suitable for us, but so pretty,