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Nice People Thread Number 10 -the official residence of Nice People
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neverdespairgirl wrote: »I certainly don't think that - nor do most people, surely? Causescu was a tyrant to match many.
I honestly fail to understand how Communism hasn't been chased from the British education system along with Nazism and fascism.
There's this bizarre apoligism that goes on: Communism would work fine but for individual greed. No! Communism is a creed of repression that has always led to the Gulag and the deaths of millions in the name of ideology.
How people can moan about Americans and 'Neo-liberalism' while cheering on Marx and his fellow travellers makes me shudder.0 -
I honestly fail to understand how Communism hasn't been chased from the British education system along with Nazism and fascism.
There's this bizarre apoligism that goes on: Communism would work fine but for individual greed. No! Communism is a creed of repression that has always led to the Gulag and the deaths of millions in the name of ideology.
How people can moan about Americans and 'Neo-liberalism' while cheering on Marx and his fellow travellers makes me shudder.
I think the thing is that "from each according to ability and to each according to need" feels like a fine ideal - and indeed it's how things can and should work in other contexts like the family - so there's a wistfulness that nobody has been able to make a political system that actually makes a country work like that.
What people fail to realise is that there's a big difference between the statement of that ideal, and communism itself, which I agree is always oppressive. Freedom is so much more in need of defence and safeguards in a nation than in something smaller like the aforementioned family context.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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I don't know; ask any kid that's been taken into care after abuse how well family communism worked for them. Communism is great, as long as the ruleing elite isn't human.“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
I don't know; ask any kid that's been taken into care after abuse how well family communism worked for them. Communism is great, as long as the ruleing elite isn't human.
I don't think the kids would fare much better in a purely capitalist family where they had to compete economically with the parents and could only consume what they had earned.
The family is the best context we have for bringing up children, because they are inherently vulnerable, unable to provide for themselves, and not able to make wise decisions about lots of things, just as democracy is the best context we have for preserving human freedom politically, not because all people are so good as to deserve a share of the power, but because nobody can be trusted to have too much of it. I agree that both can and do go horribly wrong sometimes.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
I'm thinking if he's in his 60s , spent most of his life in the police state that was Causescu's Romania, would he easily think I'll just go and ask those cops for some help........:eek:
Everybody thinks because Romania went to the LA Olympics and condemned the crushing of the Prague Spring they weren't a repressive country. They're the only Eastern Bloc country that executed their dictator, which doesn't sound like a vote of confidence in authority.
Mr bugslet used to driver through various bits of the eastern bloc in the 70s and used to describe the difference between West and East Germany as quite frightening in terms of how poverty stricken it was, then it carried on in a downward spiral with Romania at the bottom. He could never understand how a few days drive out of the UK, you could land in somewhere that looked positively medieval.I honestly fail to understand how Communism hasn't been chased from the British education system along with Nazism and fascism.
There's this bizarre apoligism that goes on: Communism would work fine but for individual greed. No! Communism is a creed of repression that has always led to the Gulag and the deaths of millions in the name of ideology.
How people can moan about Americans and 'Neo-liberalism' while cheering on Marx and his fellow travellers makes me shudder.
Saves me saying anything and far more eloquently/intelligently put.
@silvercar, unless you want to re-tile the walls, I'd find some floor tiles that fit with the wall tiles and keep the door shut.0 -
I believe that when he first came to power he was widely regarded by westerners as much more benign than leaders of other eastern European states. (Not that I remember back that far myself.) Around the time of his execution, though, the UK press was full of stories about how inaccurate this earlier opinion had been, and details of his excesses and cruelties, and I do remember reading those stories myself at the time.
I suppose I remember some of the execution-era stuff, and the whole orphanages thing (I must have been about 10 at the time, or a little older) but nothing really from before that.CKhalvashi wrote: »Whilst I'd certainly agree with this, the Peoples Palace, Transfagarisan and Mamaia were all his creations.
I've never visited the Peoples Palace, but I deliberately drove down to Mamaia via Sibiu last year, and even with a large estate car, that stretch of road to Pitesti (before heading to Bucharest) is SO much fun, yet so easy to drive!
I have visited it - on the whole, and in contrast to the rest of the country, Bucharest is pretty ugly, I thought!I honestly fail to understand how Communism hasn't been chased from the British education system along with Nazism and fascism.
There's this bizarre apoligism that goes on: Communism would work fine but for individual greed. No! Communism is a creed of repression that has always led to the Gulag and the deaths of millions in the name of ideology.
How people can moan about Americans and 'Neo-liberalism' while cheering on Marx and his fellow travellers makes me shudder.
Always led? What about places such as Kerala, in India? I think that's had more or less constant communist state government since independence, pretty much, without deaths or gulags....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
My brain finds it hard to distinguish between gulag and goulash. I 'm guessing its because they are both words I know but use very rarely.
Lead me to the goulash, please.0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »Always led? What about places such as Kerala, in India? I think that's had more or less constant communist state government since independence, pretty much, without deaths or gulags.
Well Kerala has Democracy imposed on it by New Delhi (rather as Liverpool etc did by Westminster). Also they are currently run by the UDF, not the Communists.0 -
I wonder hoe FC is. How her mother is doing.0
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