dog attack

trollopscarletwoman

gettingready wrote: »

The dog was trying to get to your dogs and OH "got in the way" and got hurt.That is the difference.

IS IT?


Seems powerful to me.

Raksha

Bach rescue remedy is great for animals and humans suffering from shock. Puncture wounds would indicate a dog with some, if not perfect bite inhibition. Without that, bones coukd have been crushed quite easily.

krlyr

Dog-aggression is a very different issue to human-aggression. We only have part of the story but it is certainly feasible that your OH got attacked because he was trying to separate the dogs. I'm imagining his knees got skinned by being pulled over in the fight, and his hands bitten by trying to remove her lead/pull her away/push the other dog away? I was involved in a spat with my two and got similar injuries because I was pulled over (none of the dogs really meant any harm though, more handbags at dawn in my case, the injuries were just from being pulled over and being stuck underneath for large breed dogs having said handbags!)

I do dislike the "but it could be a child next!" phase. Absolutely any dog has the potential to attack. The Mastiff, your dog, my dogs, almost every dog is armed with a set of gnashers that could injure another dog, child or adult. This dog hasn't attacked a child - they've attacked a dog. The difference there is just like a dog that is fine with dogs but not with cats, or a dog that is fine with females but not with males. Dogs often have very specific fears/triggers for aggression (a lot of, if not all, aggressive behaviour revolves around fear IMO), so a dog that is bad with other dogs may never have so much as a grumble around a person, adult or child. And it may even be that this dog doesn't have dog-aggression but that it's taken a dislike to your dogs alone, it could perhaps be under the weather, suffering a medical condition that caused the behaviour and so on.

However, the sheer size of a dog like a Mastiff means that with an issue like dog-aggression (if that is the case here), it is essential the dog is under control and never given the opportunity to attack another dog. For that dog's sake, and for any humans caught in the crossfire. I think it's sensible to speak to the dog warden and possibly the police regarding the incident. The police may decide that it's a case to seize the dog, though I have heard of them not classing it under the DDA if the injuries to humans were simply because they got in the middle of a dog fight - a dog-on-dog case is a civil offense, not a criminal one. They may be willing to pop around to speak to the owner though, and stress the importance of keeping the dog under control.

If you can bring yourself to do it, I'd also perhaps give the owners the link to the APBC website - they can find a local trainer who will help them with their dog's issues.

JencParker

mellymoo74 wrote: »

Got a call whilst at work at 1 this aft from my oh asking me to come home as he amd the dogs had been attacked hes too upset to say anything else.
Get back have 1 dog with a small puncture wound in ber side one with a puncture wound under his ear and a oh with many puncture wounds all over his hands and no skin on his knees.
The people who own the mastif that attacked have taken oh to hospital I have bathed the dogs and taken them out. They're a bit hyped up but seem ok.
How in the hell do I calm my oh down when he gets back he was verrrry shook up.
Oh and stop myself from beating a mutual friend of the owner of the dog that attacked because he suggested it shouldn't be put down he could get it rehomedfor them.

While I'm not suggesting this dog should be pts (without knowing whether it was a dog on dog attack or the dog actually attacked your OH it's difficult to say), but a dog that has behaved like this should NEVER be rehomed. It is the owner's responsibility to manage / rehabilitate the dog or pts. It makes me sick that people just pass the buck and rehome.

Iain_L

JencParker wrote: »

While I'm not suggesting this dog should be pts (without knowing whether it was a dog on dog attack or the dog actually attacked your OH it's difficult to say), but a dog that has behaved like this should NEVER be rehomed. It is the owner's responsibility to manage / rehabilitate the dog or pts. It makes me sick that people just pass the buck and rehome.

Disagree about NEVER rehoming a dog that has been involved in an incident like this. A dog could be rehomed to the right location, as long as a full history was provided, and the full facts known. Sadly however, human nature being what it is, in my experience owners tend not to be totally honest about the difficult traits of any animal they wish to rehome.

Having said that, from what has been written, I'm not sure rehoming is required.

To the OP, I hope your OH and dogs recover from this incident and are able to enjoy going out together again in the future.

Iain

mellymoo74

I now have more information. It has bitten before, it was going for my oh and NOT my dogs they got in the way. His hands and arms are wrecked to stop it biting his face and his knees are wrecked because it was pulling him around.
My kids comment was made because even if it had been dog reactive there are 3 groups of children aged 7-10 that I know of that walk thier spaniels on their own past there.
My females bite has damaged the muscle but not torn it luckily. My male who was trying to save his dad has a straight puncture on his neck that luckily missed anything major.
I want it put to sleep and the owner agrees with me it only let go when one of the owners was garroting it and the other one was punching it in the head it ignored all commands.
My OHs hands are wrecked and there is tendon and nerve damage.
It gave no warning, no growl and no bark it came from behind threw my female out of the way to get to my oh.
And I know any dog has the potential to attack I have had dogs my whole life and have 2 Jacks at the mo as anyone who has terriers knows they are challenging little sods.
I appreciate that you did not know either my history or where my kids comment came from but this was not handbags!

trolleyrun

As this dog has attacked before - and it went straight for your OH, I would insist the dog being pts. I love dogs, and I know some dogs can have "behaviour therapy" to get better, but this dog is so strong and powerful that I don't think it would work. I've only got a little dog (known on here as Pipsqueak), but if she started attacking people, I'd have to deal with it appropriately and most likely have her pts. Don't get me wrong, I love her more than anyone, but if I couldn't trust her, she'd have to go.

Mellymoo, I hope your OH and dogs recover and heal as soon as possible and they have no long term side effects.

Iain_L

mellymoo74 wrote: »

I now have more information. It has bitten before, it was going for my oh and NOT my dogs they got in the way. His hands and arms are wrecked to stop it biting his face and his knees are wrecked because it was pulling him around.
My kids comment was made because even if it had been dog reactive there are 3 groups of children aged 7-10 that I know of that walk thier spaniels on their own past there.
My females bite has damaged the muscle but not torn it luckily. My male who was trying to save his dad has a straight puncture on his neck that luckily missed anything major.
I want it put to sleep and the owner agrees with me it only let go when one of the owners was garroting it and the other one was punching it in the head it ignored all commands.
My OHs hands are wrecked and there is tendon and nerve damage.
It gave no warning, no growl and no bark it came from behind threw my female out of the way to get to my oh.
And I know any dog has the potential to attack I have had dogs my whole life and have 2 Jacks at the mo as anyone who has terriers knows they are challenging little sods.
I appreciate that you did not know either my history or where my kids comment came from but this was not handbags!

The additional information you now have puts a far different slant on it. I would be very concerned at a mastiff size dog that has carried out an attack on a human, having already bitten before. I always like to try to rehabilitate/manage safely, but it isn't always possible, and sometimes the sad decision has to be made. It seems in this case that the owner doesn't disagree with you.

As I said before, I hope that your OH and your dogs are able to recover from this and build up their confidence again, but it may take time and patience.

Iain

mellymoo74

Thanks both. I too would have mine in if they had done this though it would kill me.
Its my girl and oh that are the worries. I took the dogs straight back out yesterday but my OH is quite understandably worried about us walking them I need to find a way of building his confidence.

mellymoo74

We think it might be the walking stick that triggered it the worry with this is sbe gave no warning none just attacked from behind. The injured are in bed where I aim to leave em all day. Me and brave boy are gonna have a big love on the couch proud of my male dog.