Car tax disc to be axed after 93 years

spacey2012

Most cities have been stealthily fitted with static ANPR, if they see a car with no VEL, the keeper will get a penalty charge through the post.

[Deleted User]

The title says "Car tax disc to be axed" not "Car tax to be axed" or "Road Fund Licence to be axed".

As soon as I read the article on the BBC I knew straight away it was about the paper disc in the windscreen, not about the actual tax.

Even the DVLA call it "Car tax" as in VED not "Road tax".

tberry6686

Adding the VED to the price of fuel is a great idea when you have a viable alternative. For people who have very poor public transport there is no real option but to use a car. So should they have to pay more for the privilege of having rubbish public transport to subsidise those who make short journeys (generally those in towns and cities with reasonable public transport).

Rather than increase the tax on fuel go for road pricing instead, that way the people using the busiest roads, that will require more maintenance, will pay the appropriate amount and people using roads that may see any repairs once in a blue moon also pay an appropriate amount.

Mankysteve

spacey2012 wrote: »

It should be abolished altogether, we pay more than enough "tax" on fuel and those that use the roads more pay more.

I would agree, but for a different reason. With the current taxing rate someone who does 1000 miles an year in there Sunday car is taxed at the same rate as someone who does 100,000 a year I don't really think that's fair.

Mankysteve

Iceweasel wrote: »

I thought the Direct Debit option was a good idea - until I read this bit:

The new option of paying by monthly direct debit is also expected to cost 5% more than paying for a full year in one go.

No benefit at all.

5% is pretty good really

Steve059

Do you trust the DVLA to maintain a database with 100% accuracy?

I've just checked and my car's record is incorrect. It says that the year of manufacture is 2005. From the VIN, the date of manufacture is September 2004. A sticker on the car suggests that it was the 27th.

~Chameleon~

Mankysteve wrote: »

I would agree, but for a different reason. With the current taxing rate someone who does 1000 miles an year in there Sunday car is taxed at the same rate as someone who does 100,000 a year I don't really think that's fair.

Exactly! I drive less than 3000 miles per year yet I pay the same tax as someone driving 30,000 or more miles per year. How is that fair? I'd welcome an increase in fuel duty.

Joe_Horner

Iceweasel wrote: »

[...] Winston Churchill abolished Car Tax back in 1937 and the VED just goes into the general funds, along with all the other kinds of 'tax' we all pay.
[...]
So we all pay for the roads - including cyclists - who are often accused (or shouted at) of using them for free.

Aretnap wrote: »

If we're feeling pedantic, it was road tax (or Road Fund Licence) which Churchill abolished. Vehicle Excise Duty means "vehicle tax tax", so "Car Tax" is quite a reasonable shorthand for it - a tax levied on cars (and some other vehicles).

Besides which, it's a little disingenuous to say "it goes to general taxation, so we all pay for the roads" seeing as the amount raised by VED far exceeds the annual spending on roads - expected VED revenue 2012 - 2013 was £5.9 billion whereas planned spend for the rest of this parliament is only £6 billion.

And that doesn't take into account the other direct taxes on motorists such as fuel duty, VAT on fuel, VAT on fuel duty, insurance premium tax, VAT on cars, parts and maintenance, parking charges and so on.

That £5.9 billion also puts the estimated £40 million they reckon they lose to car tax dodgers each year firmly into perspective - the loss is literally peanuts compared to the amounts raised (around 0.7% from the latest figures)

Tigsteroonie

Without a tax disc with a date, how on earth am I going to know that I can shop the guy round the corner at the pub who hasn't bothered renewing his tax for a couple of months?

custardy

sinbad182 wrote: »

Except car users pay more towards the overall kitty than bicycle users due to the additional tax added to vehicle ownership.

what tax?
The fuel?