Lilt and Jellytots most excellent adventure...

apple_muncher

Remember to breathe.

And take the antibiotics.

And eat cake.

Lots of hugs xx

Westie983

Just checking in, what an evening you had yesterday!!!

Hope today is far less eventful and that you have the angelic Jelly back,

Nearly the weekend chin up Lilty,

debtfreewannabe321

I've already pm'd you my version of what my two did at that age and it was pretty similar :rotfl: I also removed everything from their bedrooms for a while.....including the light bulb as I would put them to bed, they would get up (they share a room and are 12 months apart for anyone who doesn't know) and then all I would hear was one child going "click, click, click" switching the light on and off whilst the other one was throwing the entire bedroom around. They even managed to get their mattresses off the beds one time (cotbeds) I salute you for taking charge so soon. I waited until they broke me about 2-3 weeks in on this particular behaviour and then emptied the rooms out. It took 3-4 nights of an empty room with only beds and no light bulb before bedtime routine was finally cracked :j I had no problems with it after that and i'm pleased to say at 5&6 years old now they go straight up and straight to sleep at 7pm :T Stick with it, the end result is worth the pain in between! xx

MeandO

Oh my Lilty, sorry I wasn't here last night to offer my words of wisdom (which aren't very wise at all!). Levi's right about the 2 - 3 - 4 stage though. When O hit 3, he was a different child, almost overnight. Suddenly able to communicate more and have so much more understanding about things. I can't say mine ever really had major tanturms about anything, but when he played up big time, it was usually because he was frustrated about something or other and, once I'd calmed down and figured out what that was, the bad behaviour melted away.
It doesn't really help right now I know, but these times will pass and things will become easier.

For one though, can't believe the kid's cough medicine didn't have a child-proof lid! I bought some own brand stuff this week, I'm gonna check it (and hide it well if so) when I get home!

Keep strong lovely Lilty, all will be well.

xx

liltdiddylilt

Hi guys

Thanks for the words of wisdom. DFW I forwarded your mail to Him. We feel a bit better now :rotfl:

The one thing I can say for Jelly is that her bedtime routine has always been perfect. She tells us when she is tired, gets in bed, no later than 6:15 and goes to bed for 12 hours. The problem lies in that we are all on one floor. Her bedroom is therefore accessible all day and she is as likely to get put in there for being naughty as for being put in the naughty corner (we don't have stairs!) - THAT is when the trashing commences. Last night it began at 4:30pm with the cough medicine. In the space of 7 minutes she had opened the box, unscrewed the lid and poured it over the bed and herself. She had emptied the nappies across the room. She had pulled her alphabet shapes and number dog onto the floor and kicked them around. She pulled all of the soft toys out from under the bed and launched them across the room. And she pulled down all three of her big puzzles, opened the boxes and emptied them into the mess. In 7 minutes.

And that continued, culminating in the sick all over my bedroom due to her being so distraught. And she refused her bedtime milk but then had a meltdown because she was put to bed without it. Everything she threw got taken away. So that left her room empty.

Funnily enough she was still asleep before 7. :rotfl:

The reason I am hitting it so hard as it begind is because I WAS that child. For 15 years I was the bane of my others existence. I wasn't nice to be around. I didn't even like myself. I hated being so damned stubborn that I would happily give up something like chocolate, or an ice cream, or a trip to the park, just to prove that I was in charge. But I was. I tilted my chin and glared and refused to speak. I would have rather sat in my bedroom for 6 hours than said sorry. It is not being repeated.

As for the communication. Well if you spoke to her, you would know just how well spoken she is. She can tell me what hurts, be it a headache or a sore throat or a stubbed toe. She asks for specific things. A ham sandwich. A dummy. A drink of water. We don't speak to her any differently than the way we speak to each other. She just.. converses. Yes there has been a huge sea change in the last 3-4 months to allow this, but she is completely communicative. Just like her mother she will happily cut her nose off to spite her face and be uncommunicative and throw monster strops, not because she can't express something, but because she has expressed it, requested it, or done it and it was NOT OK! :rotfl:

I have bought two baby gates. Bit late to that party but didn't really need them as the flat is all 1 level and baby proofed. But now it is to stop her using her chair to scale the kitchen cupboards or get into the fridge. Or climb into the bath and turn on the taps and pour half a bottle of soap away. Luckily one gate needed to stop access to both those places without blocking anywhere off.

So next is the living room door. Stopping her from going into my bedroom and the hallway and causing carnage.

Please don't think I am saying my child is any different to anyone elses. Just.. I have done these strops. And as a kid it didn't help me one iota. I am not living like my mother did. I am in charge :rotfl: and I hope to god it only takes 2-3 days of no bedroom furniture. But I foresee a long few weeks before she gets a handle on that explosive temper. And everyone else has been told, it's our way or the highway. In laws included.

Hugs guys. xxx

October_Starter

Hello Lilty..


Bless you! Been a hard week it seems. Jelly will get over it, keep strong even though it is hard. I used to throw the worst tantrums when I was little and put my DM through hell.


My condolences for your loss of clients, so sad. My deepest sympathies go to the children.


You know where I am if you need a rant.


October xx

sashybo

Hi Lilt, see you have been busy as ever!

Sad to hear about your client, he must have been in an awful place emotionally and mentally after losing his wife to do that.

Jelly seems to be pushing the boundaries big time. :eek: At least you know the best way to deal with her having been that child yourself. I hope she backs down soon.

I was another stubborn child/teenager even when the only person I was hurting was myself. I had to prove that I was right and no one could force me to do something I didn't want to (even if I did secretly want to do it but that would be giving in and that was unacceptable!). Actually I'm still a bit like this. Am gradually learning to be more flexible but it's hard for me.

You were asking about squirrels eating grapes and thought it was weird? I once caught a squirrel eating pizza from the bin!! :rotfl:

greenval

Have you tried putting a small bolt on the doors of rooms you don't want her to enter during the day ( bedrooms for example) placed high enough that she can't reach?

greyfox

Once watched a squirrel stealing, and then burying, a digestive biscuit!

liltdiddylilt

:rotfl: - Squirrels and pizza.. and digestives... Must have been so sad when he came to dig it up greyfox.. Love it!! We are going to feed them again tomorrow! But monkey nuts this time

greenval thanks for the suggestion. I have thought it, many a time. But to explain my flat (owned by someone else) its very old and high ceilings, large weird shaped OLD solid doors. They are beautiful solid wood and landlord painstakingly had them dipped to remove paint etc then rehung them. They are his pride and joy. I can just about persuade him to let me put a proper door handle with a lock back on jelly's door, as the mechanism etc was all there previously and has the holes to prove it. But drilling holes in to add bolts may be a step too far. He knew he had to do that in the bathroom.. so used a cheap pine door which makes a horrible noise when opening and closing and she has learned how to work the bolt on that one. My other dear is that if I put bolts high up where she couldn't reach she would put immense strain on the door by opening the handle then shoving hard. I am very much in fear of breaking his doors :rotfl:


IT IS THE WEEKENDDDDD!!!! :j:j:j:j:j

Boy am I glad. I am doing some research on lateral suspension for work and will email boss later, but waiting for a chinese :D then battle planning with Him before my weekend properly begins. I have reserved the baby gates at ergos and have a voucher from my uncle for £20. Plus it had an offer with the extending bar I needed (see aforementioned weird old doors) and I will pay £14.49 for 2 baby gates and an extension

We have easter crowns to make. And a new park to explore. And monkey nuts for the squirrels. And the small has caused no great drama today and went to bed perfectly :T lots of naughty step action and the first thing she told me, then my mum on the phone when I got home was 'Hi mummy. I been naughty, sat on the naughty step. Made daddy very sad' :rotfl:

2 days at work next week and then I am off for 12 days :T means much stress and Gabriel returns to be done in 2 days next week around my other work but hey nvm right

Have a lush evening all Once I have done my research I will try and get round some diaries. lots of love xxx