The sign of things to come? Amazing!

Graham_Devon

Guy_Montag wrote: »

But they are doing a lawful activity, surely it is right that people here should be allowed to defend them.

I get it, the bank charging you for YOU mistake is unlawful. The taking over of someones home and holding it to ransom, is lawful and completely fine.

What you mean is, it suits you, so you'll go with it.

VickyM_2

DKLS wrote: »

If you cant afford a property in your local town, then better yourself, improve your skill set, increase your earnings, move to an area you can afford.

Theft is theft, plain and simple

The only problem with this is that eventually you're going to end up with no-one in certain areas who actually does any work - particularly in Cornwall, where the minimum wage is one of the lowest and house prices are some of the highest. On the local TV news they had a couple who lived somewhere in Cornwall (can't remember where) and both worked - he was a chef, she was a a teacher. They couldn't afford to buy and there was a shortage of rental places, so they were living with their parents. If everyone like them moves away, leaving aside what that means for the future of any community, who is actually going to be doing any of the work down there?

Poppy9

VickyM wrote: »

The only problem with this is that eventually you're going to end up with no-one in certain areas who actually does any work - particularly in Cornwall, where the minimum wage is one of the lowest and house prices are some of the highest. On the local TV news they had a couple who lived somewhere in Cornwall (can't remember where) and both worked - he was a chef, she was a a teacher. They couldn't afford to buy and there was a shortage of rental places, so they were living with their parents. If everyone like them moves away, leaving aside what that means for the future of any community, who is actually going to be doing any of the work down there?

and so we come full circle:rolleyes: It used to be the norm for young married couples to live with their parents during the early years of their marriage while they saved to buy a house.

Guy_Montag

Poppy9 wrote: »

and so we come full circle:rolleyes: It used to be the norm for young married couples to live with their parents during the early years of their marriage while they saved to buy a house.

The difference is that in the past people used to be able to save up to get on the "ladder", these days no matter how hard people save, houses go up in price faster.

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sheraz2 wrote: »

I can't remember exactly, but I was angry at him and others trying to lend dignity and inject a decency to the [strike]cause [/strike] act of squatting and potraying them to be something other than what they are, legalised criminals.

Can you not understand that these people have been pushed to take such action through absolute desperation. Would you condemn them if it were food and water that was being horded?

I can only assume that your part of the problem.

taxi73

At the end of the day it's not right to Squat in anybody elses property and before you bite my head off I only have one myself!!!
It's not BTL landlords as they provide a service nor second home owners fuelling this ..it's the government....the country lets anybody in..most claiming benefits and having more rights to council housing than the british and the government have sold most of the housing stock off..families splitting and poor wages don't help either.The answer is to build more housing and if like in the old days people just saved for things and stayed with parents longer they could afford to get on the property ladder...I'm sure these problems were around in our parents?grandparents day...but they didn't live lavish lifestyles on credit as we seem to do...everyone seems to want a big house to start with rather than a 2up 2 down..maybe our expectations are too high

wecanhelpu

taxi73 wrote: »

At the end of the day it's not right to Squat in anybody elses property and before you bite my head off I only have one myself!!!
It's not BTL landlords as they provide a service nor second home owners fuelling this ..it's the government....the country lets anybody in..most claiming benefits and having more rights to council housing than the british and the government have sold most of the housing stock off..families splitting and poor wages don't help either.The answer is to build more housing and if like in the old days people just saved for things and stayed with parents longer they could afford to get on the property ladder...I'm sure these problems were around in our parents?grandparents day...but they didn't live lavish lifestyles on credit as we seem to do...everyone seems to want a big house to start with rather than a 2up 2 down..maybe our expectations are too high

The first bit in bold is so idiotic it is not worth replying to.

The second bit is amusing, given your sig

Guy_Montag

taxi73 wrote: »

At the end of the day it's not right to Squat in anybody elses property and before you bite my head off I only have one myself!!!
It's not BTL landlords as they provide a service nor second home owners fuelling this ..it's the government....the country lets anybody in..most claiming benefits and having more rights to council housing than the british and the government have sold most of the housing stock off..families splitting and poor wages don't help either.The answer is to build more housing and if like in the old days people just saved for things and stayed with parents longer they could afford to get on the property ladder...I'm sure these problems were around in our parents?grandparents day...but they didn't live lavish lifestyles on credit as we seem to do...everyone seems to want a big house to start with rather than a 2up 2 down..maybe our expectations are too high

Between Mar 2006 & Mar 2007 the cost of an average house (mix adjusted) rose by £20,371, in order to save something close to that - assuming you are living at home; your parents do not charge you any rent; they feed you; pay council tax, utilities and other bills; you do not have a car; you do not smoke, drink, eat out or go on holiday, indeed even a camping trip is out the question (you'd have to buy your own food); do not buy any christmas presents; & do not pay any money into your pension. You'd need to earn something like £26,000 & spend nothing to keep pace with HPI. (Emboldened for the hard of thinking). There is no saving to get on the property "ladder" anymore. Just borrow, borrow, borrow & pray rates don't get to 10%.

Now before we get into the but first time buyers don't buy average properties - £26,000 is above the median salary so someone earning this would be looking at an approximately average property.

HugoSP

Errata wrote: »

Can't remember it's name, but there's a small village in Cumbria which is nine tenths empty for most of the year because of holiday home owners.

Sounds similar to Polperro in Cornwall. I walked up and down past all the seafront fishermans' cottages and they were ALL HOLIDAY HOMES!!!!

I speak as a BTL landlord who hates to see locals priced out of a village, an said village turned into a ghost town. So I don't do holiday homes!

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HugoSP wrote: »

Sounds similar to Polperro in Cornwall. I walked up and down past all the seafront fishermans' cottages and they were ALL HOLIDAY HOMES!!!!

I speak as a BTL landlord who hates to see locals priced out of a village, an said village turned into a ghost town. So I don't do holiday homes!

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