Parking fine while picking up children

Tilt

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

I'm not going to continue arguing with someone who doesn't have any grasp of the subject they are arguing about.


I suggest you have a look here: https://www.gov.uk/waiting-and-parking/parking-239-to-247


I should point out that anything in the HC that says MUST NOT is the law. And anything that says should not isn't the law, but is good practice, and could be used against you if you don't follow it.

Thank you for enlightening me. I am very humbled by your superior knowledge of the subject.

WTFH

Rover_Driver wrote: »

The assumption was in that the 'facts' make a difference - they don't.

This made me laugh.

Lum

Parking on the pavement is generally legal outside London.
Parking such that you cause an obstruction is illegal.
Driving into a pedestrian while parking on the pavement is illegal.
Making a pedestrian have to drive out of the way dragging their child with them because you aren't looking as you park on the pavement will probably come under careless driving or similar.

Jamie_Carter

iammumtoone wrote: »

But what I have learnt from this thread, it would make no difference in this case, as these drivers are in the wrong, there are no exemptions. If there was a yellow line they would not be able to appeal as they would be ticketed for parking on the pavement not for parking on a yellow line.

That would all depend on the restrictions for that area. As you can see in the quote from the HC, in London it is against the law to park on the pavement. In other areas it depends on the local parking restrictions.


There are various signs that are used to show if you are/are not allowed to park on the footpath. But in general, outside London, parking on the footpath is allowed. However depending on how you are parked, you could still get done for obstructing the footpath.

Jamie_Carter

Rover_Driver wrote: »

I explained why the assumptions were wrong, and the reasons, in post 276

No you didn't. You were selective in what you applied to the exemption.

Jamie_Carter

iammumtoone wrote: »

Thank you I shall do so if needed (in the motoring section ) once I have sent off a letter and got a reply, my first point of call is to speak to the headmaster to see if he has a contact at the council I can address it to. Like most schools they struggle with the parking situation, I am not just talking about people parking on lines, people park over drives and on the corners of junctions as well.

There is no need to start a new thread, as your issue is related to this thread, and is simply a progression.

Jamie_Carter

Rover_Driver wrote: »

There is a lot of incorrect assumptions and posts in this thread.

The assumption was in that the 'facts' make a difference - they don't.

The facts do make a difference, because that is all we have to go on.

Jamie_Carter

Tilt wrote: »

Thank you for enlightening me. I am very humbled by your superior knowledge of the subject.

It does help to know a subject before arguing about it. Maybe you could try that in the future.

Lum

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

There are various signs that are used to show if you are/are not allowed to park on the footpath. But in general, outside London, parking on the footpath is allowed. However depending on how you are parked, you could still get done for obstructing the footpath.

This,

For example at my old place we had very wide pavements and a narrow-ish road. I would always park half on the pavement which meant even when the roadsides were full you could get two cars side by side. You could also still easily get a double pushchair past.

Then one day the daughter of my neighbour decided to park her brand new red Mini entirely on the pavement, leaving about a foot and a half of space either side of the car.

After a couple of days of this I came out to see her getting a telling off by the local police, not a ticket this time but strongly advised not to do it again and that next time it would be a ticket.

So long as you're sensible about it (and don't live in London, and are not in an area where a bylaw exists against it) pavement parking is fine.

Jamie_Carter

In a town near me they don't allow parking on the footpath at all. But the town planners don't seem to take this into account, so many roads in residential areas are too narrow to park on both sides, and still allow a HGV to get down the road. So the general practice is for people to park about a foot or so onto the kerb (the footpaths are mostly quite wide).


This causes a conflict, as the fire service will leave an 'inconsiderate parking' leaflet under the wiper if you are obstructing their passage down the road. So people park on the kerb, and then receive a ticket for doing so. However I do know of at least one occasion where one of the leaflets from the fire service was used to successfully appeal a parking ticket.


This is a ridiculous situation. And I know of a few occasions where firefighters have had to bounce vehicles out of the way, and on a few occasions they have had to just push vehicles out of the way with the fire engine.