Parking fine while picking up children

Jamie_Carter

Tilt wrote: »

So how do we know that is what we are "supposed" to do if there is no legislation? I don't think it even states in the highway code "you are supposed to rush back to your car to move it for an emergency vehicle". :rotfl:

It's exactly why the exemption only allows people a very short amount of time. If you were an emergency vehicle driver then you would know this.

Jamie_Carter

Lum wrote: »

TBH I think rushing back to your car to let an emergency vehicle past comes under the social law of "don't be a d**k".

As does avoiding unnecessarily blocking emergency vehicle access in the first place!

Exactly.


And being 4.5 minutes from your vehicle could delay an emergency vehicle enough to cost lives.

Rover_Driver

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

The OP ignored the parking regulations, which is why they got a ticket. Traffic wardens (or whatever you want to call them), are supposed to wait 5 minutes before issuing a ticket in such cases. 9 minutes is ignoring the regulations.

There are two different matters - being issued with a PCN, and appealing against the PCN.


CEOs issue PCNs if they believe that the vehicle is in contravention of the yellow line restriction. They may wait for a period of time before issuing the PCN or not, depending on the circumstances.
There are several exemptions to the contravention, which the CEO may not be aware of - one of which is boarding and alighting, which can include escorting someone. There is no set time limit for the actual escorting - it takes as long as it takes.


If a PCN is issued, it is then up to the driver/owner to follow the appeal procedure on the grounds of the boarding and alighting exemption to get the PCN cancelled.

Jamie_Carter

Tilt wrote: »

Quite. But there was not suggestion that the OP would (or would not) of been impeding an emergency vehicle. Quite frankly I think that JC is simply bringing in yet another pointless argument just to prove his paper-thin point.

He fails to grasp that while I made the OP aware of a possible route of appeal, there would be certain criteria to exist for the appeal to succeed. For all we know, the OP could of been parked on a road which is the width of the runway at an airport.

But that still would not allow them to park for 9 minutes.

Jamie_Carter

Tilt wrote: »

Finally someone has got it!! :T:T:T:j:j:j:T:T:T

No doubt JC will come up with something else though... :rotfl:

Now read the rest of Lum's post, and you may finally get it.

Rover_Driver

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

But that still would not allow them to park for 9 minutes.

There is no time limit - it takes as long as it takes.

Jamie_Carter

Paradigm wrote: »

Oh I've read the thread & it's perfectly clear that most have missed, totally, the OPs question. Just to refresh memories that question was.....



To which the answer is clearly YES, the boarding & alighting exemption as Tilt & Coupon Mad have been trying to explain.

Whether this appeal would be successful is another matter & all the "evidence" would be considered and a decision made.

As you admit, there is nothing in parking legislation setting out time limits so it would be down to an adjudicator,with all the facts, to decide if 9 minutes was reasonable. We don't have all the facts, just 8 lines of text giving a tiny bit of info.

Quite how you can post this as fact [/B] without anything to back it up defeats me.

You obviously don't drive an emergency vehicle.


To be fair the OP would still be 'screwed' if they appealed, going by what they have told us.

Jamie_Carter

Tilt wrote: »

The OP clearly wasn't aware that due to the age of the child (4 years old) he/she may have an avenue of appeal under boarding alighting exemptions. A bit like a lot of posters in this thread. :doh:

The child's age has no bearing on the offence because the exemption simply wouldn't apply when parking for 9 minutes.

Jamie_Carter

Paradigm wrote: »

You too are missing the point!

Just appealling doesn't mean you've automatically "got away" with it.

If you want to appeal a speeding fine you can (sort of) but because speeding is a criminal offence, you end up in court & have your say.

It's the same with a parking ticket, just a different route (parking is decriminalised)

But it's all down to if the OP has a cat in hells chance of winning an appeal. And from what they have told us they don't.


Of course they can still appeal, but it would be pointless.

londonTiger

my council allows residents up to 5 minutes to pick up/drop off and unload/load heavy equipment.

But the parking attendants are very good with that, probably because if they get a lot of complaints (false positives) it would reflect poorly on their work record. They wait exactly 6 minutes and then slap on the ticket. If such allowances are provided chances are they have observed with CCTV and OP has exceeded the time limit. Though feel free to investigate further.