Thank you :)

houseimprover

When I was younger, about 10 years ago a car crash happened and someone told me to call 999. As I never had done this before I panicked and didn't really know what to do so shied away from it and someone else called them.

My point is, we don't all react in the way that we all expect, it doesn't make them a bad person.

Person_one

yvonne13 wrote: »

Where are you getting this story from that the two of us approached the woman????
1. My friend saw the woman and shouted over to her for assistance.
2. Neither my friend nor I went towards woman, I was trying to comfort her daughter.
3. None of us asked her to get anything valuable from her bag.
4. The woman never kept walking she actually came over and stood above the child and it's at that point when she saw the child she refused point blank to help.
So if you want to call my friend a nutter go ahead.

That does sound like odd behaviour.

Remember, there are more people than most of us realise who are walking around looking just like everybody else but who have learning disabilities or mental illnesses that mean they can act very differently and not know how to respond appropriately to unexpected situations. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened here.

Dandelionclock's advice to go into a shop/office is good. There will probably be a trained first aider who might come out too, especially in a bigger place like a supermarket.

MissSarah151

GlasweJen wrote: »

Your friend sounds like a nutter, who screams at someone for not getting a valuable item out of their bag? To be honest if 2 people came towards me and asked for me to get a valuable item (phone, ask for cash for something etc) I'd keep waking too.

I'd rather lose my bloody phone than risk someone being denied urgent medical attention ....

supersuzie50

I am really sorry the woman was so mean to you. I cannot understand why she would not call the ambulance for your child. I do hope that your friend's child makes a good recovery. I hope the ambulance men when they arrived were kind. I have had to call them out several times this year and they have been wonderful every time.

yvonne13_2

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

I would have been too. Hopefully it's nothing to serious. Is she in hospital?

Yes she's still in hospital. I'll check with my friend this afternoon how she's doing.

persa

If she could actually see the child on the floor, it's an odd reaction.

Maybe she had lost someone dear recently? Not excusing, but trying to understand. It could be possible she called an ambulance anyway, once away from the scene? Probably easier to assume (pretend) she did.

I'm not a maternal type, but I would do anything to help a child in difficulty, I think it's a basic human trait - everyone remembers what it was like to be little and vulnerable. I couldn't have not tried to help.

lostinrates

Person_one wrote: »

That does sound like odd behaviour.

Remember, there are more people than most of us realise who are walking around looking just like everybody else but who have learning disabilities or mental illnesses that mean they can act very differently and not know how to respond appropriately to unexpected situations. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened here.

Dandelionclock's advice to go into a shop/office is good. There will probably be a trained first aider who might come out too, especially in a bigger place like a supermarket.

houseimprover wrote: »

When I was younger, about 10 years ago a car crash happened and someone told me to call 999. As I never had done this before I panicked and didn't really know what to do so shied away from it and someone else called them.

My point is, we don't all react in the way that we all expect, it doesn't make them a bad person.

I think both these are true, and personally, I'm grateful for the reminder of reasons like that why people don't react as we would hope they would.

LannieDuck

persa wrote: »

Maybe she had lost someone dear recently? Not excusing, but trying to understand.

I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if she had lost a child recently and, when she came over and saw the little one so ill on the floor, she just couldn't deal with it?

It's interesting hearing so many people say they would have been wary because of scams around this sort of thing. That wouldn't even have occurred to me.

OP, best wishes to your friends' daughter.

lostinrates

LannieDuck wrote: »

It's interesting hearing so many people say they would have been wary because of scams around this sort of thing. That wouldn't even have occurred to me.

OP, best wishes to your friends' daughter.

I'm afraid to a degree it would me, though it wouldn't stop me calling.

Most recent for us is DH was asked by a well dressed and turned out woman in extremis in the city on the street for a small amount of money as she had been parted from her bag.

DH took a judgement and said he would not loan her money but he would GIVE her an amount based on what she would need from where she said she lived. He also suggested she call to let him know she was safely home. She was insistent she would return the money. She never called, never returned the money (which was fine, you give knowing you might never get returned in his judgement and he was not sure whether it was a scam or not. He took the judge ment he'd rather lose a taxi fare amount of money and be scammed than be the sort of man who could go home having paused, not sure and decided to not give someone the benefit of the doubt.

Hermia

MissSarah151 wrote: »

I'd rather lose my bloody phone than risk someone being denied urgent medical attention ....

The risk is not in losing your phone, the risk is in the fact that you may need to open your bag or are distracted by making the call. A male colleague was approached by a woman for help at 3pm. He's a kind chap and went over to her and ended up with a knife held to his throat by her accomplice. All personal safety training emphasises that you need to secure your own safety first and then help. It is also better to get a shop to ring because they they will do it from a landline (quicker for the emergency services to trace you) and know the postcode etc.