Daily Mags - what is happening?

bargainhuntergal

As this debate is STILL going on...I'm just going to say that somewhere in the daily mag thread, whether it's on the front page, or when they're added to the end of the thread, the link to the main board post could do with being there, otherwise it makes it very difficult for end daters in particular.

IF you plan on entering them everyday and:

The mag thread consisted of ONLY direct links:

If you work through the board as posted you can come across the main board thread and tick or cross, then either bookmark the direct link yourself OR use the mag thread link to enter. You need never look at that main board thread again because you know you can just bypass it at any other time you might come across it due to said tick or cross. Easy.

If you're an end dater and you work through the mag thread you've either got to use the direct links - bypassing the thread on the main board completely until you come across it as you're working through that end date OR you've got to search for each comp on the main board and click the tick or cross so you don't then come across them again and either bookmark the link or use the thread. Not quite so easy.

The mag thread consisted of ONLY main board thread links:

If you work through the board as posted you can come across the main board thread and tick or cross, then bookmark the direct link yourself. You need never look at that main board thread again because you know you can just bypass it at any other time you might come across it due to said tick or cross. Easy.

If you're an end dater and you work through the mag thread you can come across the main board thread and tick or cross, then bookmark the direct link yourself. You need never look at that main board thread again because you know you can just bypass it at any other time you might come across it due to said tick or cross. Easy.

The mag thread consisted of BOTH main board thread and direct links:

If you work through the board as posted you can come across the main board thread and tick or cross, then either bookmark the direct link yourself OR use the mag thread link to enter. You need never look at that main board thread again because you know you can just bypass it at any other time you might come across it due to said tick or cross. Easy.

If you're an end dater and you work through the mag thread you can come across the main board thread and tick or cross, then bookmark the direct link yourself OR use the mag thread link to enter. You need never look at that main board thread again because you know you can just bypass it at any other time you might come across it due to said tick or cross. Easy.

If you don't want to enter everyday so don't want to wade through the daily mag thread, but don't want to miss out on getting an entry in, after all, it only takes one entry to win:

If you work through the board as posted you can come across the main board thread and tick or cross you need never look at that main board thread again same as any other thread because you know you can just bypass it at any other time you might come across it due to said tick or cross. Easy.

If you're an end dater you will see the main board thread and be able to get an entry in before the comp ends. Easy.

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Edited to add: Thing is there's almost always a way of doing something so that no one has to adapt the way they comp, but most seem to want something one way or the other, and there in lies the problem.

rugmaker

fire**fly wrote: »

yes, I understand what you're saying rugmaker
but the ruling for the time being is that we link them to the main board,
if jambo's links go straight to the main comp without the link to the main board way I see it it seems a waste of time & effort posting them on the main board because surely then peeps would have to visit the mag daily thread only,
which caused the upset in the first place
unless i'm missing something,

If the comps are listed on the main board, those that don't use the other boards can still see them and enter. That was the original issue here.

However, for those of us that use the mags thread, there is no reason at all not to have direct links posted there as well as there used to be instead of linking back to the main board threads. No one is suggesting removing the mags dailies from the main board, just that the links on the mags thread go straight to the comps. People then have the option of picking up the comps from the main board as they find them or working through the list in the mags thread without having to go via the main board thread en route.

Sorry if I am not explaining this very well!

fire**fly

Svenena wrote: »

Just updated my post as you were posting To add that it is the missing direct links as well as the missing answers that's the issue.

Is there a particular reason the direct links can't go on the thread as well? I think I must be genuinely missing something to not grasp the reason for that change. I know it's not what's done on the dailies thread, but the mags thread is there for a completely different reason.

Having the answers posted would be helpful - it would then be possible to open the thread (with the answers), and the webpages (from favourites), and refer across to check answers. It would still be less efficient than the previous system, but more efficient than not having answers or links.

Also just to say that I realise none of this is a life or death situation, and although a minor irritation, I can DEFINITELY live with missing out on a hundred or so comps a month (more time for other things!). And also I appreciate those that are making an effort to resolve things. :T

sorry, I have no idea why the links aren't directly to the comp
like Cornish did them,
am thinking it depends on the person kindly running the daily updates/thread for them maybe? or maybe i'm wrong?
Cornish did them her way, jambo's doing them the way they used to be which we've been asked to do,
hopefully it'll be sorted out soon as it does take time to post in both & link to them.

fire**fly

rugmaker wrote: »

If the comps are listed on the main board, those that don't use the other boards can still see them and enter. That was the original issue here.

However, for those of us that use the mags thread, there is no reason at all not to have direct links posted there as well as there used to be instead of linking back to the main board threads. No one is suggesting removing the mags dailies from the main board, just that the links on the mags thread go straight to the comps. People then have the option of picking up the comps from the main board as they find them or working through the list in the mags thread without having to go via the main board thread en route.

Sorry if I am not explaining this very well!

so if they were posted in the link to the dailies like this..
(just using as an example, trying to find an answer)

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=63895271&postcount=57

would that help?
but then jambo would need to copy either both links or just the main one for the main listings?

Svenena

Hi BHG, took me a while to get my head around this post, but I did, and a couple of comments:

bargainhuntergal wrote: »

IF you plan on entering them everyday and:

The mag thread consisted of ONLY direct links:

If you work through the board as posted you can come across the main board thread and tick or cross, then either bookmark the direct link yourself OR use the mag thread link to enter. You need never look at that main board thread again because you know you can just bypass it at any other time you might come across it due to said tick or cross. Easy.But if I bookmark the direct links, I don't have the answers, and if I use the thread I have to open multiple links to get to the webpage, so not so easy

If you're an end dater and you work through the mag thread you've either got to use the direct links - bypassing the thread on the main board completely until you come across it as you're working through that end date OR you've got to search for each comp on the main board and click the tick or cross so you don't then come across them again and either bookmark the link or use the thread. Not quite so easy. If you're an end dater and only want to enter once, you wouldn't need to use the mags thread at all, surely? Just the links on the main board.

ETA Have I missed a variation here? End-daters who want to enter daily/multiple times. Use the thread, and then the cross on the comps on the main board. They are marked "mag daily" in the title, so easy to spot. I'm not an end dater, but I've been crossing them (as I don't have time to enter through the individual posts).

I think end-daters who want to enter daily must also want the direct links, as everyone who enters daily must want the most efficient/quickest way to do it!

Svenena

fire**fly wrote: »

so if they were posted in the link to the dailies like this..
(just using as an example, trying to find an answer)

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=63895271&postcount=57

would that help?
but then jambo would need to copy either both links or just the main one for the main listings?

That would solve it, but it does seem like more effort for jambo then! As per my previous post, there's no real need (that I can think of) to have the links to the main-board-posts on the thread. It doesn't benefit either end-date compers or by-date-posted compers.

Whichever type you are, if you want to enter multiple times (eg daily) you use the thread, otherwise you use the main board.

rugmaker

fire**fly wrote: »

so if they were posted in the link to the dailies like this..
(just using as an example, trying to find an answer)

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=63895271&postcount=57

would that help?
but then jambo would need to copy either both links or just the main one for the main listings?

That would work.

I honestly don't see the benefit of linking back to the main thread from the mags thread at all but I have no problem with it being there if people want it as long as the direct link is there as well. It just may be wasted effort for Jambo if nobody uses it.

Thank you for taking the time to understand.

bargainhuntergal

Svenena wrote: »

Hi BHG, took me a while to get my head around this post, but I did, and a couple of comments:

That part about end daters was for people who DO want to enter them daily. The part about entering once was at the end.

Your first comment is kind of what I was getting at though, and although I think the answer to that is a simple one, i.e. when you bookmark, copy and paste the answer to the beginning of the bookmark, surely if there's a way to do it that suit all methods of comping, then that's the best way to do it, otherwise this debate will be raging on forever because people want things done different ways?

Some want direct links, some seem to like thread links, others want the answer AND the direct link, some don't want the threads on the main board at all. And although we can't solve the last one and keep everyone happy, because that's how we ended up here in the first place, we can keep the others happy by having both links and the answer. And maybe the people who didn't want them posted on the main board at all will be able to live with it because they can quite easily tick or cross and bypass that thread in the future.

Edit to say: I've just seen your edit - you did miss the variation, and I know my post was long and probably quite confusing, but thats another issue here, because there are SO many different ways that people comp, sometimes people don't look past their way of comping and consider the people who comp in other ways. I personally have changed my comping methods multiple times and done things in a whole host of different ways, so I feel I understand how each way works.

Are you saying in your edit that end daters will have to either search for or go through everything posted that day to find the mag comp threads? If so that's what I'm saying in my post and it's quite an inefficient way of doing it when the answer is so simple.

maybe1

rugmaker

Why don't you make your own checklist/diary in compers chat corner (this is the place to chat about comps, post hints and tips, ask questions galore and relax after a hard session comping)

rugmaker

I don't think anybody has said they like the links from the mags thread to the main board instead of direct to the comps.

I am an end dated and have no problem using the mags thread and skipping the threads on the board when I get to them. It's sometimes quite nice to find some on the main board I can skip when trying to catch up!