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free rent?

my sister and I share a house.

my brother moved in with us 6 months ago, he doesn't work and spends his jsa on himself, cigarettes and his old car.
he gave up drinking after 40 years soon after he moved in.
he can't get any housing benefit as he is living with relatives.

my issue isnt the rent as you might think, it's the smoking issue, I absolutely detest smoke and smoking.
my house has started to smell of smoke, and he just doesn't get it, he is supposed to smoke outside which he does mostly but he himself reeks of it.
we get on well and I don't mind him living with us.

any ideas?

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  • Kayalana99
    Kayalana99 Posts: 3,626 Forumite
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    molly22 wrote: »
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    my issue isnt the rent as you might think,

    x

    Ofc that is what we will think because you started the thread free rent? :/
    People don't know what they want until you show them.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    I hope he pays his third of the bills.

    If he carries on smoking indoors, tell him to leave.
  • simple, tell him you are fed up of the house stinking of smoke and wish him to smoke outside ALL of the time and he can keep his coats in his room (they tend to stink the hallway don't they). If he doesn't like it, tell him to find somewhere else to live.

    Is there a reason you haven't been more firm with him already? are you scared of him or something?
  • It doesn't matter if he 'gets it' or not. If its making you uncomfortable then he has to stop smoking if he wants to keep his rent free home. If he wants to carry on smoking he is free to find himself alternative accommodation. I would offer him that choice. I couldn't live with a smoker either, for the exact same reason.

    It's perfectly up to him if he wants to smoke, but he can't live in your home if he does.
  • kick his ar5e out :) problem solved
  • seven-day-weekend
    seven-day-weekend Posts: 36,755 Forumite
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    edited 18 November 2013 at 10:15AM
    Even if he smokes outside, he himself is going to stink. I know exactly what the OP means. When my neighbour comes round, he leaves our house stinking of smoke, even though he does not smoke in our house.

    There is no way round a heavy smoker stinking of smoke, so I can only suggest he finds alternative accommodation (or gives up smoking altogether which of course would be preferable). The only other option is for you to put up with it, because the smell will not go away while he is smoking.
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  • I've read of paint that stops the stains and smell of smoke (from cigarettes) , but it wasn't cheap. Your brother's behaviour is lowering the value of the house you sisters share.
    What does you sister think? Or is divide & rule still brother's no.1 game?
  • Oakie
    Oakie Posts: 88 Forumite
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    Could he not go and sit in his car and smoke or in the garden shed.
    As for the smell, spray him with fabric fresher.
  • thorsoak
    thorsoak Posts: 7,166 Forumite
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    If he isn't on the rent book, then he has no entitlement to stay. If he persists in smoking and not getting himself a job - then chuck him out! He will be entitled to H/B when he is not living with relatives - though as you don't say how old he is, he may only be entitled to the rent of a room in a shared house.

    Maybe it will spur him on to get a job.
  • meritaten
    meritaten Posts: 24,158 Forumite
    jeez - smokers are more reviled than heroin addicts these days! there is absolutely no reason your HOUSE should smell of tobacco smoke if he smokes outside and keeps himself and his clothes clean!

    I think its more a personal hygiene issue - I smoke and have lived with a non smoker all my married life and for most of that time have only smoked outside. I change clothes every day, shower frequently and DONT wear the same coat to go out for 'fag' as that way the smell does permeate the coat. I also wash my hands after my ciggy. my OH has never complained I smell of 'fags'. because I take care NOT to!
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