do you think its cheeky....

Farside

Do you think it's cheeky to ask the EA if the vendor would be willing to leave things like the tv, kithen units, built in oven, built in fridge in house as part of the offer?

I'm looking at a house, it's about 10 years old, the property is quite high priced for what you get, crap stud inner walls make the house feel like paper inside but it looks nice from the outside, there is about 8k worth of repairs needed doing to it which i deducted from the original asking price (had my surveyor friend look at it for me),

we all know that EA's overvalue properties by about 5% anyway just so when i buyer makes a lower offer, it is usually what their real asking price is, but the vendor rejected my offer, the EA sasked if i'd like them to ask the vendor to sell for 1k under their asking price.... i thought my offer was a very good offer for the property in its current condition, its advertised as "immaculate condition" haha and my surveyor friend exact words as he walked through the door was "!!!!!!!!" lol

Cracks in plaster that need EML repairing, bathroom that needs re-tiling, zig zag cracks on outside of brick wall through its mortar, missing mortar on the brickwork, front door unit wobbles badly when closed and needs replacing, massive 2 foot crack in the hard vinyl bathroom floor and the floor creaks and bounces. Big fillet missing from corner on conservatory, rotten fascia needs replacing which is caused by leaking gutter, gutter will also need replacing / fixing, only prob is conservatory is directly below it so there is no access to that part of gutter / fascia, which means scaffolding would need hiring, another big expence.... this is a very brief list of things needed repairing, there's a lot more, i just cant be bothered writng everything out as its irrelevant to the question

While there is a lot of things, we dont mind fixing it up over the next year or two while we live there but the vendor has to see that they are asking way too much lol

The house has been on the market for over 6 months now, so i don't understand why my offer was declined, given the amount of work needed, we only knocked off 8k for the work needed.

My wife wants the property, it has a drive and its semi detached which is what we want. The only prob is faults and damage inside. We are trying to make it more worth while for us to buy so things like the vendor leaving the tv in place all plugged in ready for us to just bring our sky box in and leaving the kitchen units and built in oven and built in fridge in place in place is ideal, so we dont have to pay for sky to come re-install and electrician to fit a new oven in etc. I've read many things online about houses being stripped bare when the vendors move out, including kitchen units and built in ovens/fridges haha.

What do you think? is it cheeky asking for the TV, Kitchen units, built in fridge and built in oven as part of the offer?

(It's not an expensive tv its only a LG TV haha.)


Thanks

phill99

I've never heard of a vendor removing kitchen units. They are fixed so would normally remain. If the kitchen has built in appliances, it's quite common for them to stay also.

I would be tempted to ask the EA to confirm that the fixed kitchen appliances are to remain.

10 years old and needs £8k of work? I'd be very surprised if that was the case.

They sound like routine maintenance jobs rather than structural issues. Every house in the country has some routine maintenance to be done. It's a fact of life.

Good luck with asking for an £8k reduction.

Mojisola

Farside wrote: »

i thought my offer was a very good offer for the property in its current condition

The house has been on the market for over 6 months now, so i don't understand why my offer was declined, given the amount of work needed, we only knocked off 8k for the work needed.

My wife wants the property

A house is worth what a buyer is willing to pay and a seller is willing to accept.

If the seller isn't in a hurry to move and the buyer loves the house, the price will be higher than if the circumstances were different.

BitterAndTwisted

Things like kitchen units, built in oven, built in fridge should be left as part of the agreed seling-price but you should ask for clarification about the built-in appliances.

To be honest if I saw a property with zigzag cracks on outside of brick wall through its mortar and missing mortar on the brickwork I'd be thinking twice about this property, never mind all the other issues. These are only the very obvious failings and if the current owners haven't sought to address these just think of all the other horrors you could discover.

hcb42

leaving built in units would be normal. Leaving TV would not be. That said everything is negotiable, but unless it is somehow built in, I'd be suprised if they left the TV.

Like others, I would be more concerned about the cracks that the £200 TV...

Farside

structural surveyor has already ok'd it, no subsidence etc, doesn't know why its happened, he told me to get builder to remorter the gaps and should be ok

Phil3822

When I moved into this house we had very little and asked the EA if he would ask the buyer if he was prepared to sell any furnishings/appliances. Turned out he was moving to Spain and as such was happy to leave everything we wanted at no cost. Worth an ask.

patman99

The cracks are a sure sign that at sometime over the last 10 years the property has suffered from a small amount of subsidence. This may well be down to the property being built on soft ground and as a result, has 'settled'.

I would take a good hard look at other surrounding properties to see if any others have suffered cracks (the repairs stick-out like a sore thumb).

The crack in the vinyl floor & the squeaking floorboards are also another sign that all is not right.

As for your offer, leave it long enough and they will eventually back down and accept when no one else offers anything close.

Farside

patman99 wrote: »

The cracks are a sure sign that at sometime over the last 10 years the property has suffered from a small amount of subsidence. This may well be down to the property being built on soft ground and as a result, has 'settled'.

I would take a good hard look at other surrounding properties to see if any others have suffered cracks (the repairs stick-out like a sore thumb).

The crack in the vinyl floor & the squeaking floorboards are also another sign that all is not right.

As for your offer, leave it long enough and they will eventually back down and accept when no one else offers anything close.

I'll put up some pics in another thread with pics and see if anyone on here can narow down the cause. cheers :beer:

Farside

Phil3822 wrote: »

When I moved into this house we had very little and asked the EA if he would ask the buyer if he was prepared to sell any furnishings/appliances. Turned out he was moving to Spain and as such was happy to leave everything we wanted at no cost. Worth an ask.

Yes no harm in trying eh :beer:

Farside

hcb42 wrote: »

leaving built in units would be normal. Leaving TV would not be. That said everything is negotiable, but unless it is somehow built in, I'd be suprised if they left the TV.

Like others, I would be more concerned about the cracks that the £200 TV...

Yes i'm not saying it's common practise, but more if it looks cheeky to ask to keep a item of the seller if you make a slightly higher offer for the house then you would have, they won't sell for offer price but they would for the other price the EA said, atleast i'd get a free TV out of it. If it looks cheeky then i won't bother asking.