35 hours a week for Jobsearch, not possible?

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

it being called jobseekers allowance seems to give certain people licence to say its a payment for jobseeking and it exists to pay for jobseeking only.

I think now its more on an emphasis on the word job seeking as I have no idea if when it was called something else you had to prove you were actually 'jobseeking' as I have never been out of work before.

As stated its the amount the Gov say you need to live on, not look for work with.

They care not if you have a phone line or internet (job seeking tools) that's your problem if you don't.

mro

sensibleadvice wrote: »

I've seen many applications, sifted and recruited. Like I said you'd be surprised just how few applications there are for some jobs, how poor some of them are and how some not meeting all the criteria may get interviews. One thing is for certain, poor attitude and approach to work will not lead to a job.

For what jobs ?

mro

sensibleadvice wrote: »

Depends on what you mean by quickly. 6 months should sort most, 12 max. Beyond that suggests problems with the claimant, either with attitude, skills, technique or a combination.

Maybe, maybe not.

What is this advice based on ?

It's pretty obvious that someone who is 3, 6, 9, 12 months unemployed is at a disadvantage and got problems finding a job which could be related to any number of issues.

You've missed out, job availability, supply demand of jobs & candidates, prejudice on employer side.

sensibleadvice

donnajunkie wrote: »

what you need to remember is it is very convenient for the bashers that it is called jobseekers allowance when effectively it is unemployment benefit as it was actually once called.

Unemployment benefit is a negative term and would encourage some to think it's paid just because they're unemployed.

JSA is a positive term that indicates what it's paid for - an agreement to seek work.

It would be very convenient for lazy people to hide behind the former and claim there's nothing to indicate looking for work.

sensibleadvice

donnajunkie wrote: »

20 would be do-able in the time. however it wont be an acceptable amount according to the jc. it would currently be acceptable but that is on the basis of doing a few hours per day and not jobseeking all day. they would also not accept any days good enough that only had 2 applications done like you agree would be acceptable.
i dont have any problems convincing them i do enough.

So how many do you have to do - more than 20? Seriously?

stix62

sensibleadvice wrote: »

Unemployment benefit is a negative term and would encourage some to think it's paid just because they're unemployed.

....

In 'the good old days' it was exactly that. When you signed it was just to say you hadn't been working at all for the past fortnight. A quick in and out - no inquisition.

AP007

stix62 wrote: »

In 'the good old days' it was exactly that. When you signed it was just to say you hadn't been working at all for the past fortnight. A quick in and out - no inquisition.

Really? No proof of looking for work?

stix62

AP007 wrote: »

Really? No proof of looking for work?

No, nothing

AP007

stix62 wrote: »

No, nothing

No wonder people had a great time on it then.

sensibleadvice

donnajunkie wrote: »

it being called jobseekers allowance seems to give certain people licence to say its a payment for jobseeking and it exists to pay for jobseeking only.

It's money paid with conditions. Here's some of the relevant ones which you're overlooking.

To get Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) you must:

be 18 or over but below State Pension age - there are some exceptions if you’re 16 or 17
not be in full-time education
be in England, Scotland or Wales
be able and available for work
be actively seeking work
work on average less than 16 hours a week
go to a JSA interview
JSA interview

To complete your claim you must go to an interview at your local Jobcentre. If you don’t, you won’t get any JSA. If you apply online, you’ll get a text or phone call within 2 working days to arrange this.

At the interview you have to agree things like:

what steps you can take to find work - eg improving your skills
how you can improve your chances of getting a job - eg get help on writing a CV, preparing for interviews, looking for work
This is called a ‘Jobseeker’s Agreement’. You can take someone with you to a JSA interview.

Your JSA may be stopped if you don’t follow your agreement and can’t give a good reason.