People that park their cars on pavements.....

lazer

MamaMoo wrote: »

You can come up with all the excuses in the world, the fact is if someone parks so that it's difficult or not possible for a parent with a pram or a wheelchair user to get past, then they're a pig ignorant git.

If someone is willing to damage cars and not own - then they are a pig ignorant git. It is reckless to not take any reasonable step to avoid damaging property. In some cases it cannot be avoided, in others it propably can.

By the way - a few scratches on the side of the caused by a pedestrian will cause less damage than a few scratches caused by a car if the car was parked further out on the road, so its not actually going to discourage anyone from parking on the pavement.

vikingaero

I remember driving past a doctors surgery and seeing a queue of mums with buggies waiting to go in. The surgery is on a main road and has the zigzags of a pelican crossing outside. Yet a disabled driver had parked on the pavement and on the zigzags to visit the surgery and the resultant gap was too narrow for pushchairs to pass!

Moglex

lazer wrote: »

If someone is willing to damage cars and not own - then they are a pig ignorant git. It is reckless to not take any reasonable step to avoid damaging property. In some cases it cannot be avoided, in others it propably can.

Nothing in the text you quoted suggests scratching a car.

By the way - a few scratches on the side of the caused by a pedestrian will cause less damage than a few scratches caused by a car if the car was parked further out on the road, so its not actually going to discourage anyone from parking on the pavement.

Quite true, Einstein, but given that when some twàt parks on the pavement you can pretty much guarantee that people are going to pass it and may be tempted to express their dissatisfaction with the citizenship of said twàt, possibly with a key or some similar, sharp, object, but most people manage to park on the road, without ever getting their car damaged. Which rather makes a nonsense of you argument.

scheming_gypsy

How many of the 'anti' brigade, actually drive / own a car?

PLog86

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

How many of the 'anti' brigade, actually drive / own a car?

What on earth has that got to do with anything?

If you see someone smashing the window to a jeweller's shop and stealing the goods, do you need to be a thief to point out that they are doing something they shouldn't.

The whole "are you/do you" thing is just a cheap and desperate tactic used by people who do not have he intelligence to argue a point to try and distract from those who do.

BTW, I do drive a car and would never park on a pavement. I think those who do are reprehensible and would be very pleased to see the action in the rest of the country treated in the same way as it is in London and points awarded to infractors.

earthstorm

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

How many of the 'anti' brigade, actually drive / own a car?

Parking or driving on a PUBLIC FOOTPATH is against the law or do you think the law does not apply to you.

i suggest you read these posts

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=63536668&postcount=133

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=63537019&postcount=134

we are not anti. we are LAW abiding citizens

Torry_Quine

PLog86 wrote: »

What on earth has that got to do with anything?

If you see someone smashing the window to a jeweller's shop and stealing the goods, do you need to be a thief to point out that they are doing something they shouldn't.

The whole "are you/do you" thing is just a cheap and desperate tactic used by people who do not have he intelligence to argue a point to try and distract from those who do.

BTW, I do drive a car and would never park on a pavement. I think those who do are reprehensible and would be very pleased to see the action in the rest of the country treated in the same way as it is in London and points awarded to infractors.

I have to agree with you.

For what it's worth although I personally don't drive my husband does so we do have a car but would never park on the pavement.

scheming_gypsy

You `sound like an idiot.

it's quite simple. the people who are against it are going over the top with their excuses. Which makes it sound like they don't drive, so i suspect you're lying

MamaMoo_2

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

How many of the 'anti' brigade, actually drive / own a car?

Not me. I walk places for the most part. Although when I do learn to drive I will happily walk so that my car is not an inconvenience, as I *am* a parent and know how much of a PITA it is of have to drag my kids in the road.
My husband will be getting a transit in a fortnight though. He too will be parking considerately, especially at home when he'll be parking in a car parking space we have, as he was learning to drive when we moved in so we specifically looked at and favoured houses with parking.
He thinks that people who block pavements are idiots too, and has made his co-worker move his van if it's parked inconveniently.

earthstorm

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

You `sound like an idiot.

it's quite simple. the people who are against it are going over the top with their excuses. Which makes it sound like they don't drive, so i suspect you're lying

so the law is an excuse

https://www.gov.uk/waiting-and-parking/parking-239-to-247

243

DO NOT stop or park

• near a school entrance
• anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services
• at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank
• on the approach to a level crossing/tramway crossing
• opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
• near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
• opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle
• where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane
• where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles
• in front of an entrance to a property
• on a bend
• where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle facilities except when forced to do so by stationary traffic.

244

You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Law GL(GP)A sect 15

145

You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & RTA 1988 sect 34