Teachers on Strike

JReacher1

gregg1 wrote: »

It would be interesting to see what his results are with an attitude like that!

It's a very high performing school and his results are good. I would send my kids to the school when they're old enough.

If you're a good teacher then it's not a hard career. It just takes a bit of organisation. It's a bit of a myth that teaching is difficult. Teachers just say that because from the outside it looks like a short working day, long holidays, good pension and not a bad wage. They try and justify this by stating that it's a difficult career. In reality it's not.

gregg1

JReacher1 wrote: »

It's a very high performing school and his results are good. I would send my kids to the school when they're old enough.

If you're a good teacher then it's not a hard career. It just takes a bit of organisation. It's a bit of a myth that teaching is difficult. Teachers just say that because from the outside it looks like a short working day, long holidays, good pension and not a bad wage. They try and justify this by stating that it's a difficult career. In reality it's not.

What percentage do you class as "good"?

JReacher1

gregg1 wrote: »

What percentage do you class as "good"?

I don't know, I only know a small number of teachers (5) and they all appear to be good teachers as the schools they work at achieve a high passrate.

I would say that schools where the pupils achieve a high level of results probably have better teachers than a school where the results are poor. However that is just an assumption on my part and I have no factual evidence to back this up.

whitesatin

I was a teacher for many years. I enjoyed it, mostly, but found the workload was increasingeach year, especially towards my retirement when all sorts of changes were introduced - not always for the better. Everything was so prescriptive and it killed creativity.

I didn't encourage my children to become teachers and neither did, thankfully. They both work hard and earn good money, have decent pensions and, most importantly, have their weekends and evenings to themselves and to enjoy their families.

I think that young teachers starting their careers now are overloaded with work and are generally more willing to accept a ridiculous workload than we were because that seems to be the norm in most jobs these days. Work till you drop then work some more. There is always someone else who wants your job so don't dare complain.

I never went on strike during my career but was becoming very uncomfortable with the fact that unqualified assistants were being used more and more to take classes, "under the direction of a qualified teacher". That is one thing I would strike about now. As a grandparent of children just starting school, I urge my children to find out just what is going on in this respect within their local schools.

I am so glad I am retired. I earned my salary and I certainly earned my pension. Hopefully I did some good along the way.

Feebie

JReacher1 wrote: »

It's a very high performing school and his results are good. I would send my kids to the school when they're old enough.

If you're a good teacher then it's not a hard career. It just takes a bit of organisation. It's a bit of a myth that teaching is difficult. Teachers just say that because from the outside it looks like a short working day, long holidays, good pension and not a bad wage. They try and justify this by stating that it's a difficult career. In reality it's not.

That's a mightily big if :rotfl:!

I'm a good teacher - I have excellent subject knowledge and the ability to break it down to a level that can be understood by the pupils in my care. I am also excellent at managing the different needs of up to 31 individuals at the same time - SEN, learning styles, support or stretch and challenge, just broken up with the gf or bf and really doesn't want to know about Pythagoras' Theorem, etc, etc. I'm also well organised, following up on admin, chasing homework, setting targets, writing reports, talking to parents, etc.

I am not moaning - please see my previous post - but to belittle those teachers who work hard to try and give the best chances to the pupils in their care is downright insulting.

JReacher1

Feebie wrote: »

That's a mightily big if :rotfl:!

I'm a good teacher - I have excellent subject knowledge and the ability to break it down to a level that can be understood by the pupils in my care. I am also excellent at managing the different needs of up to 31 individuals at the same time - SEN, learning styles, support or stretch and challenge, just broken up with the gf or bf and really doesn't want to know about Pythagoras' Theorem, etc, etc. I'm also well organised, following up on admin, chasing homework, setting targets, writing reports, talking to parents, etc.

I am not moaning - please see my previous post - but to belittle those teachers who work hard to try and give the best chances to the pupils in their care is downright insulting.

You seem to be objecting to "if you're a good teacher". It's almost like you are saying there aren't any good teachers.

That's a strange stance to be taking.

Shouldn't you be marking;)

Feebie

JReacher1 wrote: »

You seem to be objecting to "if you're a good teacher". It's almost like you are saying there aren't any good teachers.

That's a strange stance to be taking.

Shouldn't you be marking;)

Nah, please see one of my earlier posts.

JReacher1

Feebie wrote: »

Nah, please see one of my earlier posts.

Exactly. Good well organised teachers don't spend all their spare time marking. Which is basically my argument.

gregg1

JReacher1 wrote: »

I don't know, I only know a small number of teachers (5) and they all appear to be good teachers as the schools they work at achieve a high passrate.

I would say that schools where the pupils achieve a high level of results probably have better teachers than a school where the results are poor. However that is just an assumption on my part and I have no factual evidence to back this up.

I understand why you would assume that but it's not always the case. It can be that if a teacher has to spend more time managing behaviour then there is less time for teaching which has an effect on results. It is not always an indication of poor teaching.

This is particularly pertinent due to this Government's pig headed belief that is a good thing to remove funding for PRU's and Special Schools and that mainstream schools should be all inclusive!

gregg1

JReacher1 wrote: »

You seem to be objecting to "if you're a good teacher". It's almost like you are saying there aren't any good teachers.

That's a strange stance to be taking.

Shouldn't you be marking;)

No, I think he is objecting to someone saying if you are a good teacher it's not a hard career when actually the complete reverse of that is nearer the truth.