Teachers on Strike

sodukoman

goater78 wrote: »

So how did you teach without a qualification? If schools won't let you teach without a qualification and you don't have a qualification how did you manage to teach?

Did you fake a certificate? With my IT skills I could easily do that

On a more serious note I have volunteered teaching in school (just basic computer skills) although I stopped when the rules got more stringent and you had to be CRB checked. Not that I would fail the check but I couldn't be bothered with the hassle!

I was asked to.

No..never entered my mind. Why did it yours?

Do it. I did and enjoyed it.

poet123

goater78 wrote: »

Yes I suppose I could just go back to university and spend the 20 weeks it would require to achieve this "difficult" qualification

Do you have a link to the course which you can do in 20 weeks?

Who said it was difficult?

lazer

Andy_L wrote: »

alipops1986 wrote: »

there's no way I can do my job at 75 years of age plus. /QUOTE]

I don't believe you're being asked to though and is teaching unique in a job that can't be done by a 75 yo?

you don't have to keep working in your current job until your 75 - you just won't get your pension until the state pension age.
If you think teaching is too demanding at that age go and work in a less demanding job until your pesnion comes through.

Also It's not the teachers and office type prefessions that are being hard done by the rise in retirement age its the more manual jobs, imaging being a bricklayer at 70?

whitesatin

Teachers, go and enjoy your half term and leave this thread for the wind up merchants to get on with.

Andy_L

poet123 wrote: »

There may be the odd person who at 75 was up to it, but in general all our faculties are on the decline by then and teaching is a mentally demanding job.

and, as I said before teachers aren't being asked to work to 75 and is teaching such a uniquely "mentally demanding job" that it couldn't be done by a 75 year old?

poet123

Andy_L wrote: »

and, as I said before teachers aren't being asked to work to 75 and is teaching such a uniquely "mentally demanding job" that it couldn't be done by a 75 year old?

On a daily basis I think so. Try it and report back.;)

whitesatin

Andy_L wrote: »

and, as I said before teachers aren't being asked to work to 75 and is teaching such a uniquely "mentally demanding job" that it couldn't be done by a 75 year old?

Nobody should be expected to work beyond. 65, in any job. I'm 62 and I wouldn't want someone much beyond my age teaching my grandchildren. Nor would I want a doctor much older than myself operating on me. By this age you have given your best and do begin to slow down, no matter how good you have been at your job. Children deserve a stimulating education and, of course they are used to all singing, all dancing environments these days. Give younger teachers the chance to shine although there would be no harm in mentoring by older teachers. The future is in a good mix of education and technology. Recruit some IT wizards to work alongside teachers although it is doubtful they would want to work for a teaching salary and wouldn't it be a shock that they wouldn't be able to sit at a computer all day?

bylromarha

Andy_L wrote: »

and, as I said before teachers aren't being asked to work to 75 and is teaching such a uniquely "mentally demanding job" that it couldn't be done by a 75 year old?

I teach 30 wonderfully lively 5 year olds.

On an average day different pupils in my class tantrum, fidget, hit, refuse to work/move, roll round the floor, kick, whine, dive under your feet when teaching on the carpet, push, strop, cry, have wee/poo accidents, bleed...and paint walls and tables, hide under tables, throw chairs, bite, run off school grounds in previous classes...


I make sure the classroom environment is prepped from floor to ceiling with exciting interactive imaginative displays, climbing up and down ladders (if you can find them or on tables and chairs if you can't)

I weekly prep a pile of ICT resources including powerpoints, and ipad work, and quickly rearranging cables to make all the technology work when you need it to.

I take PE lessons where you have to model moves and show ball skills. And spot children on the climbing frame.

...now ask me that original question again with a picture of your 75 year old (great) nan/grandad in my place.

whitesatin

bylromarha wrote: »

If they're aged 75+, try to imagine your (great) nan/grandad standing and sitting in front of my class, teaching 30 active 5 year olds .

On an average day different pupils in my class tantrum, fidget, hit, refuse to work/move, roll round the floor, kick, whine, dive under your feet when teaching on the carpet, push, strop, cry, have wee/poo accidents, bleed...and paint walls and tables, hide under tables, throw chairs, bite, run off school grounds in previous classes...

...now ask me that question again.

Now wait for someone to say that is down to poor teaching and behaviour management skills. Not a mention of who should be responsible for teaching/ modelling acceptable behaviour. I feel sorry for the children who want to learn.

bylromarha

whitesatin wrote: »

Now wait for someone to say that is down to poor teaching and behaviour management skills. Not a mention of who should be responsible for teaching/ modelling acceptable behaviour. I feel sorry for the children who want to learn.

:rotfl:Obviously!

The person doesn't know 5 year olds with interesting backgrounds then. Or been in a primary school in a rough area recently.

I can quote one of the leading Ofsted inspectors from my area who identified that behaviour management is a particular strength of mine.

How on earth is someone a little frailer in body supposed to deal with that?!