Teachers on Strike

poet123

goater78 wrote: »

Well he's said he works in IT and his wife who appears to be a part time teacher works harder than him. As I had already said I work in IT it appears too much of a coincidence that this argument has been used to refute me!

Are you a teacher?

No, a lecturer.. but if you do your homework you will see that he does post on that topic frequently.

bylromarha

goater78 wrote: »

No I didn't say that. I said only the top private schools could offer me a comparable salary.

If I became a teacher I would happily work at a state school. It's obviously less demanding than a top private school but I unfortunately can't survive on a new teacher salary as I have several financial commitments that mean I need to earn a certain level of salary.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Oh you are funny.

Your extra hours above and beyond 9-5 = £25k above a new teacher salary.

You couldn't live on it. But you expect a new teacher to, and also stop moaning about their hours and pay and workload, as other professions work outside their perceived hours.

Can you see the irony?!

Anyway, back to the planning for next term for me...

System

bylromarha wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Oh you are funny.

Your extra hours above and beyond 9-5 = £25k above a new teacher salary.

You couldn't live on it. But you expect a new teacher to, and also stop moaning about their hours and pay and workload, as other professions work outside their perceived hours.

Can you see the irony?!

Anyway, back to the planning for next term for me...

Maybe you can do that planning in the week off you're either on or about to enjoy....

When I started on £15.5k I had no trouble surviving on that. As I earn more my financial commitments go up as my standard of living improves.

I therefore can't afford to drop back down to my original salary.

I would have no trouble surviving on a teachers salary if that was all I was used to as it's a decent salary. I've just unfortunately priced myself out of an easy life and chased the big bucks

whitesatin

goater78 wrote: »

Maybe you can do that planning in the week off you're either on or about to enjoy....

When I started on £15.5k I had no trouble surviving on that. As I earn more my financial commitments go up as my standard of living improves.

I therefore can't afford to drop back down to my original salary.

I would have no trouble surviving on a teachers salary if that was all I was used to as it's a decent salary. I've just unfortunately priced myself out of an easy life and chased the big bucks

Lesson number one - Never live above your means.

I can't really see how it can be considered to be an improved standard of living if you have to spend your life on a treadmill as a result. To me, that is a contradiction in terms.

My salary was never wonderful, around £40,000 when I retired, but by working hard and settling for a modest wage instead of chasing big bucks, I was able to retire at a reasonable age with the mortgage paid off and an acceptable pension. Oh yes, and the satisfaction of knowing that I have made a difference to the life of my pupils - worth a lot.

Teachers will never be well paid, as such, but they make a great contribution to society, willingly. They deserve what they earn and they deserve a reasonable pension in retirement.

Without teachers where would we be?

As they slogan used to go: If you can read this, thank a teacher.

laurel7172

whitegoods_engineer wrote: »

Its funny, so far, nobody has written the 'My wife's a teacher, goes to work at 5am, marks books until 3am and spends entire holidays preparing lessons'

Lets face it, Teachers work a short day, a short year and have massive holiday entitlement.

If you work from 9-3 daily with 17 or so weeks off a year, this is part time working for a full time wage so please teachers, just stop moaning.

I arrived at 7.30 this morning. I left at 6pm. There were cars in the car park when I arrived, and there were still cars there when I left. I've spent three hours tonight marking and then moderating the school's social network. I will be in school on at least two of the five days' "holiday" next week, and expect to be working on at least another two of them. The benefit of a week off is that I actually get a weekend-normally I'd be working both days.

And I'm only an HLTA. Teachers work much longer hours than I do.

whitesatin

laurel7172 wrote: »

I arrived at 7.30 this morning. I left at 6pm. There were cars in the car park when I arrived, and there were still cars there when I left. I've spent three hours tonight marking and then moderating the school's social network. I will be in school on at least two of the five days' "holiday" next week, and expect to be working on at least another two of them. The benefit of a week off is that I actually get a weekend-normally I'd be working both days.

And I'm only an HLTA. Teachers work much longer hours than I do.

We could start a whole new thread on my thoughts about this but here is not the right place. All I will say is surely it hasn't come to the stage where assistants, higher level or otherwise, are expected to work like this? If so, things are worse than I thought. You probably earn not much more than a normal assistant. Take a look at your job description and don't be put upon.

System

whitesatin wrote: »

Lesson number one - Never live above your means.

I can't really see how it can be considered to be an improved standard of living if you have to spend your life on a treadmill as a result. To me, that is a contradiction in terms.

My salary was never wonderful, around £40,000 when I retired, but by working hard and settling for a modest wage instead of chasing big bucks, I was able to retire at a reasonable age with the mortgage paid off and an acceptable pension. Oh yes, and the satisfaction of knowing that I have made a difference to the life of my pupils - worth a lot.

Teachers will never be well paid, as such, but they make a great contribution to society, willingly. They deserve what they earn and they deserve a reasonable pension in retirement.

Without teachers where would we be?

As they slogan used to go: If you can read this, thank a teacher.

I don't live above my means. I live within my means because my means are quite high.

If I got paid less I would be living above my means.

You seem to be implying everyone should live a lifestyle as if they were being paid £20k a year.

Andy_L

alipops1986 wrote: »

there's no way I can do my job at 75 years of age plus. /QUOTE]

I don't believe you're being asked to though and is teaching unique in a job that can't be done by a 75 yo?

whitesatin

goater78 wrote: »

I don't live above my means. I live within my means because my means are quite high.

If I got paid less I would be living above my means.

You seem to be implying everyone should live a lifestyle as if they were being paid £20k a year.

In my opinion, it is madness to take on commitments based upon one's current income, even if it is high. A reduction in circumstances can come in many forms but hopefully you have that covered by savings or insurance. I am naturally cautious, at least financially, as my early years were far from comfortable. Thankfully this has paid off due to my parents, who valued education, hard work and prudence. I have been rewarded now with a very comfortable lifestyle. Each to their own but I always advise my grown up children to be careful not to over commit even though they are both high fliers. Neither are teachers.

Just my opinion, of course and I realise that life is very different these days.

pollypenny

goater78 wrote: »

No I didn't say that. I said only the top private schools could offer me a comparable salary.

If I became a teacher I would happily work at a state school. It's obviously less demanding than a top private school but I unfortunately can't survive on a new teacher salary as I have several financial commitments that mean I need to earn a certain level of salary.

Teaching in the state system is demanding!

On the one hand, you could have large classes of very bright students, whose work generates hours of marking.

On the other hand, you would probably also have smaller classes of low achieving pupils, some of low ability, some not wanting to work, which offer different challenges.

This latter can be the hardest work: motivating the idle, potentially disruptive, while providing help and encouragement to those who are struggling.

Contrary to impressions given by the media, most parents are supportive. However, there are those who think little Jason can do no wrong.