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  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    HAHA ok.

    Well it's my own business and when you're in that position every pound you keep in the bank is a bonus. I've billed the client £80+VAT for delivery, wilthsire is 100 miles away from london. I think given the above experiences it's probably just worth driving back to London and getting a good nights sleep.

    100 miles X 4 X 45p is £180 in mileage. LOL.

    I've set myself a personal challenge, I want to make my £2K car free after mileage claims from my company. I need to cover 10K miles for business travel to get that.

    B&b + food on the road is going to be well in excess over £40. So that is not an option. Bonus of travelling back - I draw £100 in mileage claims out of the company tax free. I get VAT back for the fuel I fill up so £80+VAT would be £96 at the pump.

    I wouldn't think of it like that, i'd say:

    400 miles /45mpg = 8.8gallons * 6.25gallon = £55 fuel + £25 towards w&t.

    And for this you've made your sale and possibly won over a new client going forward.... unless you're a haulage company of course in which case you've sold yourself short.
  • wiogs
    wiogs Posts: 2,744 Forumite
    lemontart wrote: »
    DO NOT do it at services unless you have a good alarm as get fined if there over 2 hrs with their cameras and expensive letter later.

    I have slept in my car when away but always found a field to park in (got permission from farmer) I am short so can fit fine in the back of my agila

    er - no you won't. Have a read at some of the parking threads.
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    wiogs wrote: »
    er - no you won't. Have a read at some of the parking threads.

    They may not get 'fined', but certainly will receive an invoice / incur a charge / whatever you wish to call it.

    And rightfully so if they are breaching the terms of use.

    Just because you can ignore it doesn't make it right. Although there are cases where they take it to court and frankly the advice on dealing with claims around here is dreadful, yet we're all so quick to say ignore it.
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    arcon5 wrote: »
    Just because you can ignore it doesn't make it right. Although there are cases where they take it to court and frankly the advice on dealing with claims around here is dreadful, yet we're all so quick to say ignore it.

    Advice to 'IGNORE' is months out of date.

    Anyone reading the recent threads on the Parking Forum would know that the regular posters over there have 100% success rate with forum assisted appeals and NO-ONE advises 'ignore' any more (unless the RK/event is in Scotland or NI)
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • photome
    photome Posts: 16,669 Forumite
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    barbiedoll wrote: »
    If it were me, I'd take a sleeping bag or quilt and have a couple of hours kip at a service station then drive back home. Wiltshire isn't that far from London!

    you would have a sleep in the middle of a 200 mile round trip? :eek:
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    Advice to 'IGNORE' is months out of date.

    Anyone reading the recent threads on the Parking Forum would know that the regular posters over there have 100% success rate with forum assisted appeals and NO-ONE advises 'ignore' any more (unless the RK/event is in Scotland or NI)


    The advice is either ignore or appeal to POPLA - which not all management companies are a member off.

    The whole forum seems to ignore the concept the prevention is better than the cure.... prevention in most instances (of course there are a few exceptions) is not trying to walk all over the car park owners wishes by not abiding by the rules.

    In ops case the potential of getting involved with the parking management industry would be to not park in a car park prohibiting it.
  • TrickyWicky
    TrickyWicky Posts: 4,025 Forumite
    HappyMJ wrote: »
    It depends where you are and why you are doing it. Sleeping in your car for a few hours in a motorway services area is acceptable. Sleeping in your car on the beach at Newquay is illegal and you'll be given a penalty by the council. http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=33744
    *A motorhome is defined as any vehicle constructed or adapted for use as a mobile place of sleeping – ranging from a custom-built motorhome to an estate car with a mattress in the back"

    So apparently carrying a matress in your car (aka private goods) is now punishable? Who on earth came up with that? Next thing you know, carrying tools will be punishable too.
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    It's not unreasonable for a council to not want people sleeping in vehicles in their car parks at night. It's likely residents have suffered issues surrounding noise which has caused this.
  • TrickyWicky
    TrickyWicky Posts: 4,025 Forumite
    I'm aware of that arcon, i've worked for two councils in their parking depts.

    What does surprise me though is that cornwall will class a matress in a car as a mobile home and issue a PCN. Obsurd that is. Next thing you know it'll be pillows or a blanket.
  • Dden
    Dden Posts: 15 Forumite
    Take some board with you and if you can fold down the back seats lay this across to make a sleeping platform. Works a treat in my estate.
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