sleeping in a car?

spacey2012

If you have a business that is in the elevated position to register for and charge VAT ! and you have to sleep in your car, you need some serious business advice, not sleeping advice.
You are doing something very wrong indeed .

Aretnap

DUTR wrote: »

I was always under the impression it is illegal to sleep in a car (as in have the keys on your presence) my JP colleague at work informs that it falls under the banner of not being in full control of the vehicle

Only if you're driving - which you're clearly not if you're asleep with the engine off and the handbrake on.

Possibly you and/or your friend are thinking of being drunk in charge of a vehicle, which does see a lot of people sleeping in cars convicted, but it's not an issue if you're sober.

londonTiger

spacey2012 wrote: »

If you have a business that is in the elevated position to register for and charge VAT ! and you have to sleep in your car, you need some serious business advice, not sleeping advice.
You are doing something very wrong indeed .

I've voluntary elected for VAT registration because we're b2b and all our customers are VAt reigstered so it's better for cash flow to elect to register for VAT even if I dont meet the revenue threshold.

It's a small business and I'm the sole employee/

Why can't people contribute without passing judgement??

londonTiger

Aretnap wrote: »

Only if you're driving - which you're clearly not if you're asleep with the engine off and the handbrake on.

Possibly you and/or your friend are thinking of being drunk in charge of a vehicle, which does see a lot of people sleeping in cars convicted, but it's not an issue if you're sober.

yes, I would imagine sleeping "on the wheel" is quite different for just sleeping in your car.

Gloomendoom

I've slept on my cars loads of times in the past. Apart from the Austin Maxi, all were incredibly uncomfortable. I tend to just book a room now.

As for the legal position, what is the difference between sleeping in a car and sleeping in a motor caravan or a sleeper cab in an HGV?

OddballJamie

spacey2012 wrote: »

If you have a business that is in the elevated position to register for and charge VAT ! and you have to sleep in your car, you need some serious business advice, not sleeping advice.
You are doing something very wrong indeed .

I'm puzzled how it makes any money. OP has mentioned fuels costs but what about wear and tear on the car and paying himself an actual wage for driving 400 miles.

spacey2012

A good accountant will give you a flat cost of driving of £20 per hour minimum.
Every hour you are driving, the cost to your business is not less than £20.
Think about it, how far can you get in one hour and what is the cost of that fuel, cost of car maintenance and purchase and then what about your time.
In reality it is probably much more.
This is why employers love you using your own car, paying you the hourly rate and a minuscule fuel allowance, you are subsidising the shortfall for them,.

LandyAndy

londonTiger wrote: »

HAHA ok.

Well it's my own business and when you're in that position every pound you keep in the bank is a bonus. I've billed the client £80+VAT for delivery, wilthsire is 100 miles away from london. I think given the above experiences it's probably just worth driving back to London and getting a good nights sleep.

100 miles X 4 X 45p is £180 in mileage. LOL.

I've set myself a personal challenge, I want to make my £2K car free after mileage claims from my company. I need to cover 10K miles for business travel to get that.

B&b + food on the road is going to be well in excess over £40. So that is not an option. Bonus of travelling back - I draw £100 in mileage claims out of the company tax free. I get VAT back for the fuel I fill up so £80+VAT would be £96 at the pump.

Sleep in the car and still claim the mileage from your company;). I'm sure the boss won't sack you if he finds out:cool:.

I think some people here don't grasp how useful claiming mileage from your own company, and reclaiming the fuel VAT, is.

WTFH

Depending on where in Wiltshire you are going to, you might be able to find a cheap B&B for £30-40 for a night. Might not be great, but would be more comfortable than the car

(try https://www.booking.com or https://www.laterooms.com , or just google B&B in the nearest town)

jbainbridge

I'm sure you've thought of this ... could it not be done by courier?