Biggest Threats to Cyclists?

hugheskevi

I'm persuaded by the overwhelming weight of logic, and readily admit that the careful citing of robust evidence sources is clearly second-best to the force of dogma.

I admit that despite the large font, I was still left with lingering doubts, but the use of capitals leaves no question about the compelling validity of the argument - in my experience those who make their point with capitals are always right.


I'm off for a quick chess game with the pigeons.

andrewf75

hugheskevi wrote: »

I admit that despite the large font, I was still left with lingering doubts, but the use of capitals leaves no question about the compelling validity of the argument - in my experience those who make their point with capitals are always right.

I'd have liked to have seen him be a bit more confident and state FACT. at the end. Then there would truly be no argument.

WiggyDiggyPoo

Le73Uq86Uv wrote: »

If you chose not to use what has been privided for cyclists dont complain when you get hit down buy a car when using the road.

If you want better cycle paths pay for them like car drivers pay for the roads, i.e a road bike tax.

I see the crackpots are still rolling in, no need for me to point out how wrong you are as other have done a fine job already

Tilt

Good example of a good and bad cyclist in one clip!

http://youtu.be/dUftM2SAIus

Tilt

...and here a cyclist who has mounted his own campaign against his fellow 'silly cyclists'.

http://youtu.be/w9PxKdspjJQ

Le73Uq86Uv

AndyBSG wrote: »

The irony of this quote when in the same post you also posted this is quite amusing...



It is perfectly legal for cyclists to filter down the left of vehicles and does not breach the Highway Code in any way and there are a plethora of rules that actually make reference to left hand filtering such as rule 88 and rule 211.

More importantly rule 72 specifically places the responsibility for not hitting left filtering cyclists on the car driver, not the cyclist.

Rule 88 Rules for motorcyclists

Manoeuvring. You should be aware of what is behind and to the sides before manoeuvring. Look behind you; use mirrors if they are fitted. When in traffic queues look out for pedestrians crossing between vehicles and vehicles emerging from junctions or changing lanes. Position yourself so that drivers in front can see you in their mirrors. Additionally, when filtering in slow-moving traffic, take care and keep your speed low.


Rule 211

It is often difficult to see motorcyclists and cyclists, especially when they are coming up from behind, coming out of junctions, at roundabouts, overtaking you or filtering through traffic. Always look out for them before you emerge from a junction; they could be approaching faster than you think. When turning right across a line of slow-moving or stationary traffic, look out for cyclists or motorcyclists on the inside of the traffic you are crossing. Be especially careful when turning, and when changing direction or lane. Be sure to check mirrors and blind spots carefully.

Rule 72

On the left. When approaching a junction on the left, watch out for vehicles turning in front of you, out of or into the side road. Just before you turn, check for undertaking cyclists or motorcyclists. Do not ride on the inside of vehicles signalling or slowing down to turn left.

redcard

Le73Uq86Uv wrote: »

I am not anti cyclist although you may think that now, but as a car driver and also a cyclist at times I notice what some cyclists do.

How many of you cyclists over take on the left?

Then wonder why you get caught by traffic turning left?

Not to mention ignoring traffic lights and roudabouts.

READ THE HIGHWAY CODE AND NOT JUST THE PARTS YOU WANT TO QUOTE.

Very good point about the Highway Code. Take your own advice.

Did you read the bit about passing slow-moving traffic on the inside? It's perfectly fine.

Tilt

redcard wrote: »

Very good point about the Highway Code. Take your own advice.

Did you read the bit about passing slow-moving traffic on the inside? It's perfectly fine.

Not always it isn't.

custardy

http://road.cc/content/news/99513-london-flooded-police-road-safety-crackdown

There have been widespread reports of drivers being ticketed for stopping in advanced stop line ‘bike boxes’ and of cyclists being fined for running red lights and riding on pavements.

well done.

On The Guardian’s website, CallMeWhatever posted: “Lots of police on CS7 between Colliers Wood and Clapham Common this morning. I'm not sure if they were all there for bike watching though, or if something else was going on in the area. Some of them seemed to be using the cycle lane as parking spaces for their motorbikes, hence forcing all the cyclists out into the middle of the road.”

The Evening Standard spoke to 57-year-old Ben Watson who was stopped while taking his children to school by cargo bike this morning.

“This policeman called me over and said ‘is that bike legal?’ I thought ‘well you’re the policeman surely you should be telling me whether its legal or not’”, said Mr Watson.

“I think it seems a bit unfair as this operation is making out cyclists are the problem when it is actually cars that are the problem.

“I know where I’m going. I’ve been taking the kids to school on this route for four years, I know what I’m doing.”

On the Guardian, betweenarock12 said: “As I saw this morning, handing out fines to cyclists for stopping over the line or jumping lights versus them handing out polite leaflets to car and lorry drivers stopping over the line and stopping in the advance cyclist areas hardly sends the right message for the need for everyone to take responsibility for road safety.

That police seem to be targeting cyclists rather than even-handedly enforcing the law was a common complaint. On the Guardian’s site, andythatcham said: “Interesting chat with a police officer on my ride in this morning. 20 of them in Brixton watching cyclists on road junctions. As the PC said to me 'we're watching you lot'. Attitude and resourcing suggests Met (and Boris) blame cyclists for recent deaths.”

Not so well done.

silverwhistle

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

I had a Porsche intentionally pull over to the left to block me at a junction, I got off my bike and went around it as I felt unsafe around someone with an attitude like that. Went where I was going, came back to the junction 15 mins later and there had been a crash involving that Porsche, only minor but had to consider that his attitude covered all areas of his driving.

Dear me, what a shame. I do hope you didn't laugh...

Hopefully they hit something static and didn't involve anybody else..