can we avoid care home charges

Torry_Quine

spaniel_dog wrote: »

I have always paid my way when its just, I will not line the pockets of private care owners I know some of them through my work history and they rake it in, I dont agree with private care when so many cant afford, I dont like discrimination, I could have afforded to pay poll tax but I chose to riot instead and we made better world for todays generation the same generation that have said I live in a selfish bubble, my father and all the generations of my family were miners and if you have the Christmas card that was put out at time of miners struggle, you can spot me and my other half in the middle of the march holding the banner, the card was called 'we all struggle with the miners' we got soaked that day and my other half ended up with pneumonia ever since his working and earning capability reduced, this is the actions of what others have said is selfish, they want to get facts right

You keep saying that you've paid into the system then admit that you rioted rather than pay the 'poll tax', sorry but any sympathy I had for you has gone. I didn't agree with it but what would happen if we all decided not to pay taxes. :eek:

The care home I have known well made no difference whether residents were self-funding or not and my relative's care was no different when she became funded by the local authority after her money diminished.

barbarawright

spaniel_dog wrote: »

I am really perplexed at what others have read into my comments, of course I appreciate what we have taken in services, I dont live in a selfish bubble, my point is care should be equal for all and not based on who has or does not have assets, my mother was in care home it was a lovely place with very good staff, she was there state funded for most she obviously had her pension paid to them but her good friend in that home was a lady who had money so she was paying a lot for the same care my mum was getting, Im sorry however its wrapped up its discrimination between the haves and have nots, thanks for good wishes

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you. However that isn't the situation we currently have and it's very unlikely to change for the better before you retire.

spaniel_dog

Errata wrote: »

That's very true, so why do you think those who have a small private pension and a state pension should pay tax in order to fund the care home costs you don't want to pay?

excuse me I pay tax too on my pension

spaniel_dog

barbarawright wrote: »

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you. However that isn't the situation we currently have and it's very unlikely to change for the better before you retire.

does not warrant the comments and insults that have come my way

Errata

spaniel_dog wrote: »

excuse me I pay tax too on my pension

It must be a heck of a good pension, given the personal tax allowance for those over 65.

spaniel_dog

Torry_Quine wrote: »

You keep saying that you've paid into the system then admit that you rioted rather than pay the 'poll tax', sorry but any sympathy I had for you has gone. I didn't agree with it but what would happen if we all decided not to pay taxes. :eek:

The care home I have known well made no difference whether residents were self-funding or not and my relative's care was no different when she became funded by the local authority after her money diminished.

we rioted over the poll tax to kick it into touch if Maggie had been allowed to get away with it goodness help, as it was our stand made the changes so it was bearable and more just, I take it you supported the poll tax as it was

spaniel_dog

Kaz2904 wrote: »

I am stopped around £700 per month from my wages (tax, NI, pension and union fees). Even if the whole amount went towards my health care, my children's schooling and their healthcare until they are no longer my responsibility, I have taken out more than I have paid in. Add in care needed when I'm older and my monthly stoppages would cover 1 weeks care. Hmm. Makes you think doesn't it?

Nowadays, it is more of a need to have care homes as women are working so are less able to become carers. We're more geographically mobile too so are more likely to live a long distance from relatives.

It's just one of those things unfortunately, if you want guarantees, you will have to dip your hand into your own pocket.

good example of why the government allocation of the budget to health care needs reviewing we should pay less in overseas aid and tax breaks for the rich and look after the elderly when it matters, oh dear Im getting political now, didnt want to

spaniel_dog

Errata wrote: »

It must be a heck of a good pension, given the personal tax allowance for those over 65.

not really but because private pension pay tax on all of it

Nicki

spaniel_dog wrote: »

does not warrant the comments and insults that have come my way

Could you quote an actual insult on this thread? Or even an unwarranted comment? I have seen a lot of comments and posts which disagree with your views but nothing personally abusive that I can recall. We are allowed to have a different outlook on life, you know, and also to uphold what is currently the law of the land, and expect others to do so too.

Torry_Quine

spaniel_dog wrote: »

we rioted over the poll tax to kick it into touch if Maggie had been allowed to get away with it goodness help, as it was our stand made the changes so it was bearable and more just, I take it you supported the poll tax as it was

No I didn't support the poll tax and had no problem with people campaigning against it but rioting is for me never an acceptable way to behave. here in Scotland it started a year early.

spaniel_dog wrote: »

not really but because private pension pay tax on all of it

That's not correct though. Whatever the source of income everyone has a tax-free allowance.