How to persuade a child to take a blood test

Person_one

What makes you think they don't have to give consent for the HPV jab? Of course they do!

Humphrey10

angelsmomma wrote: »

If you google hpv vaccine damage it brings up some interesting answers.

If by "interesting" you mean something like "ridiculous" then yes it does.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Humphrey10

It's quite common for people to refuse to get tested or screened for things, because they fear the results. I don't think there is any need to assume the OP's son is on drugs just because he doesn't want a blood test.

If he has got diabetes then it will eventually become obvious.
If it's a underactive thyroid then it won't cause any damage if there is a delay in diagnoses. I assume the son is tired or something given the conditions suggested?

cheepskate_2

Humphrey10 wrote: »

If it's a underactive thyroid then it won't cause any damage if there is a delay in diagnoses. I assume the son is tired or something given the conditions suggested?

Incorrect...Leaving hypothyroid can lead to Myexdema coma. Hypothyroid sometimes does not show classic signs of cold and putting on weight.

Leaving your body depleted of thyroxine, when everything basically in your body is regulated by it is can have lasting effects.

I think most people see underactive as just a little problem, and loads of people have it, but can leave debilitating conditions.

ailuro2

Dearie me, this thread deteriorated a bit since I last posted! Sorry Aliasojo. Thanks for posting your opinion. All the cajoling, grounding threats,offers of bribery were done over a period of time, it wasn't a huge family argument - we don't "do" those in our house, it's not constructive - we're pretty good at talking stuff through. Our DD still hasn't given us a good reason not to have her HPV, which is unusual as she normally has a (good) answer for everything.

To the other poster who said they would have the hpv vaccine rather than a lifetimes of smears - even with the vaccine you still need smear tests and I have tolde her that, of course the chances of needing further investigation are reduced, because the chances of having cervical cancer will be less likely.

OP - I know vaccine versus blood tests are being done for a different reason, but I felt the crux of the matter was our children's right to refuse medical interventions when they didn't want them, I was trying to say that everything we tried failed.

Lunar_Eclipse

Person_one wrote: »

What makes you think they don't have to give consent for the HPV jab? Of course they do!

Because from memory, my daughter didn't.

A parent had to sign her consent form, not her, hence my comment. (ETA: sorry, it wasn't clear I was talking from 'experience' in my post.)

Unless my memory is failing me, which I suppose is possible, I just don't recall her giving formal authorisation. Does being present & offering an arm count as consent? Or must she have signed the form?

securityguy

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

Does being present & offering an arm count as consent?

Yes. If she refused to have the injection, that would be an end of it. Local health authorities have over-ridden parental refusal of consent because a child of age to have the HPV injection is almost certainly Gillick/Fraser competent. That's a sword with two edges, because a G/F competent child can also refuse treatment, and no health professional is going get themselves struck off (because they almost certainly would be) by forcing unwanted treatment onto a competent patient.

Person_one

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

Because from memory, my daughter didn't.

A parent had to sign her consent form, not her, hence my comment. (ETA: sorry, it wasn't clear I was talking from 'experience' in my post.)

Unless my memory is failing me, which I suppose is possible, I just don't recall her giving formal authorisation. Does being present & offering an arm count as consent? Or must she have signed the form?

Presenting an arm is consent.

On the day, if she'd have said no, it wouldn't have been done.

Girls are also allowed to consent formally for themselves if the parents say no, it just involves a bit more paperwork!

January20

kleapatra wrote: »

How times change, when I had my BCG (1993/1994?) I was either 13 or 14 and really not keen on needles. So I was literally pinned down for it by 4 or 5 people. My parents just told me it was my own fault for being such a wimp! It just wasn't an option not to have it. Your parents signed a form some time before hand and there was no discussion, it was just something that had to be done and would be whether you wanted it to be done or not. To be honest I can see the sense in this, parents should make the decision based on medical advice, not a child's opinion/want.

Just because things were allowed to happen in the past doesn't make them right! I think your parents showed a complete lack of respect towards you by doing this! I can't believe it happened only 20 years ago! Shocking!

sukysue wrote: »

God Victory I bet you didn't realise ppl would start a fight over your innocuous thread did you ? lol

People would probably not have got into such a fight over this if victory had been less mysterious about whether her son needs the tests or not! I'm pretty sure I have read every post in this thread and I haven't seen the answer to that question. My answer to her question would be different depending on whether he needs the tests or not!

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She has stated he does need them, just not necessarily now.

HBS x