The First Minister's behaviour

The_Hurricane

I went to a GAA game with work colleagues and was politely told that since I did not have United Ireland inclinations "it would be better if I didn't return". To be honest this was fair enough but that why I have issues with it being branded as cross community - it isn't.

How is it shoved down my throat - well I used to work at a place where you had to play Gaelic to get promotions.

The_Hurricane

mezza101 wrote: »

lol but my point is that some prods celebrate st pat for his christian values, not for nationality or booze up, which have nothing to do with st pat :eek:

Some of the biggest Loyalist parades are on St. Patrick's day, the Orange also parade on this day and hold religious services but then Glynn would have these displays bulldozed off the road.

GlynD

mezza101 wrote: »

lol but my point is that some prods celebrate st pat for his christian values, not for nationality or booze up, which have nothing to do with st pat :eek:

Some Catholics do so too. We're all the same you know. :cool:

The_Hurricane wrote: »

I went to a GAA game with work colleagues and was politely told that since I did not have United Ireland inclinations "it would be better if I didn't return". To be honest this was fair enough but that why I have issues with it being branded as cross community - it isn't.

How is it shoved down my throat - well I used to work at a place where you had to play Gaelic to get promotions.

Hmm, Years ago you had to be an Orangeman to get promotion - or even a flipping job. What if you were in an Orange hurley team - would that help you up the ladder?

The_Hurricane

GlynD wrote: »

Ensure the religious balance of the PSNI stays at least 60/40. 50/50 is preferable.

Surely ability to do the job should be more important than one's religion?

Ban the Orange Order from politics - in fact ban all the loyal orders from interfering. Make it a condition that MLA's, MP's, TD's and MEP's cannot belong to any sectarian organisation. LOL, AOH, or whatever.

Why? This seems to be very bigoted on your behalf especially since you're someone who greatly benefitted from a Orangeman/Politician.

Above all, make it as offensive to be sectarian as it is to be racist. As long as we accept sectarianism it will always be there. If we look down our noses at people who are sectarian it will change things. That may sound difficult but it used to be acceptable to drink and drive, we've changed that so it shows the impossible is possible.

To simply define oneself as one religion over another is sectarian so good luck mate.

A few points but you're too set in your ways to take on someone else's POV's.

GlynD

The_Hurricane wrote: »

Some of the biggest Loyalist parades are on St. Patrick's day, the Orange also parade on this day and hold religious services but then Glynn would have these displays bulldozed off the road.

Nope. I never said anything like that. You're mistaking someone else's quote for mine.

I've got nothing against Orange parades per se. I just don't do it myself. Mostly because I'm not an Orangeman. I would never join such a sectarian organisation.

GlynD

The_Hurricane wrote: »

A few points but you're too set in your ways to take on someone else's POV's.

POV is what's spoiling this country. :cool:

emmett123

The_Hurricane wrote: »

I went to a GAA game with work colleagues and was politely told that since I did not have United Ireland inclinations "it would be better if I didn't return". To be honest this was fair enough but that why I have issues with it being branded as cross community - it isn't.

How is it shoved down my throat - well I used to work at a place where you had to play Gaelic to get promotions.

i don't think you being told at a GAA match rings true. The GAA dont care who goes their matches, don't trip over themselves at the minute to bring members of the British establishment to croke park? and ensure that their establishment friends get premium box seats, whilst ordinary fans find it difficult to get tickets for big matches.

in the Catholic education sector, the GAA is a ticket to promotion or getting a job in the first place. I don't know what influence the OO had in the 1950s etc, but i cannot imagine its much different to the control GAA has in modern catholic schools.

GlynD

emmett123 wrote: »

i don't think you being told at a GAA match rings true. The GAA dont care who goes their matches, don't trip over themselves at the minute to bring members of the British establishment to croke park? and ensure that their establishment friends get premium box seats, whilst ordinary fans find it difficult to get tickets for big matches.

in the Catholic education sector, the GAA is a ticket to promotion or getting a job in the first place. I don't know what influence the OO had in the 1950s etc, but i cannot imagine its much different to the control GAA has in modern catholic schools.

So what you're saying is that: if you're not good at Gaelic sports you don't have much of a chance either at school or in work?

You must forgive me but I personally find this hard to believe. Nor do I remember any of my friends telling me this back in the days when housing was integrated.

shaz77_2

GlynD wrote: »

So what you're saying is that: if you're not good at Gaelic sports you don't have much of a chance either at school or in work?

Only in certain areas but it's a fact of life - out of interest do you condemn or condone this behaviour? From reading your second comment at 18:19 yesterday it's unclear.

lazer

GlynD wrote: »

So what you're saying is that: if you're not good at Gaelic sports you don't have much of a chance either at school or in work?

You must forgive me but I personally find this hard to believe. Nor do I remember any of my friends telling me this back in the days when housing was integrated.

I'm a bit scpetical of this too - although from what I have heard back in the 60's the school was only interested in you if were either acedamic of good at football, but I think those days are mainly over with things like vocational NVQ's etc now being possible. I've never heard of people not getting promotions due to not supporting or playing GAA sports.
As I have said before I have played Ladies football for my school, university and local club and keenly support the Down County team - and I would class this as my only real hobby - but if asked about hobbies and interests in an interview or application form I never include this (And probably seem like a dull person for lack of hobbies!) as it does open up the possibility of discrimination.

I went to a Catholic school - and there was no GAA played at our school - we finally got a football team when i was near leaving age - (Around 1999), we had hockey, netball, tennis etc but no camogie or Ladies football.