Football/ Gaelic Shirts

mezza101

tara747 wrote: »

sill, it sounds as if most of the NI population has moved on and left you behind. There is such bitterness in your words, you sound like someone who is reluctant to let go of the old divisions in society.

I am not quite sure what your point is, really. But I don't have anything in common with people who are stuck in the past. I like the new NI. Sure, there are a few loonies who try to cling onto hatred and bigotry, but they're a minority now. Thank goodness.

Apologies if I'm being a bit harsh, but seriously. Have a read through this thread again and ask yourself: what is the problem here?

the new NI, and a few loonies who try to cling onto to hatred and bigotry??? do you know how many people here voted for sf and dup, yeah we have really moved on here.......:rotfl:

Cotta

sill wrote: »

I am asking is uni really the right place to wear shirts that you are not allowed to wear in schools , colleges , bars, nightclubs, restaurants , and most workplaces .

Your argument has been defeated, your child went to an integrated school at which Gaelic was played within the curriculum and evidently as with most school Gaelic attire was worn.

mezza101

sill wrote: »

How in gods name am I being predudiced when I am asking is uni really the right place to wear shirts that you are not allowed to wear in schools , colleges , bars, nightclubs, restaurants , and most workplaces . Tara I really think you should calm down about this as you seem to think that by asking a simple question makes me in some way predudiced I suggest so look up the meaning of the word in a dictionary.I asked a question and when others answered I gave an opinion ,in most places this is called a debate which is the basis of every democratic societyin the world.As to why I sent my son to a integrated school the reason is simple I wanted him to interact with people from all religions and cultures which unlike where I went to school in Canada rarely happens as other types of schools in Northern Ireland are usualy populated by one religion or the other.If this makes me intolerant and predudiced then I suggest you contact the oxford english dictionary and get them to change the defination of these words. Sill

im afraid you are banging your head against a brick wall here :wall: good ole norn iron is as bigoted and divided as it ever was and the shirt wearing is just one of very many expressions of it in our tribal society........but dont worry haas is gonna sort it all out by christmas

saverbuyer

sill wrote: »

How in gods name am I being predudiced when I am asking is uni really the right place to wear shirts that you are not allowed to wear in schools , colleges , bars, nightclubs, restaurants , and most workplaces . Tara I really think you should calm down about this as you seem to think that by asking a simple question makes me in some way predudiced I suggest so look up the meaning of the word in a dictionary.I asked a question and when others answered I gave an opinion ,in most places this is called a debate which is the basis of every democratic societyin the world.As to why I sent my son to a integrated school the reason is simple I wanted him to interact with people from all religions and cultures which unlike where I went to school in Canada rarely happens as other types of schools in Northern Ireland are usualy populated by one religion or the other.If this makes me intolerant and predudiced then I suggest you contact the oxford english dictionary and get them to change the defination of these words. Sill

You grew up in Canada, your son completely missed the troubles and yet they are "shocked" and "astonished" at people wearing football tops at University for God sake. You need to get some perspective. You've clearly picked up some intolerance somewhere and passed this onto your child if this "shocks" an 18 year old at University. The whole point to the place is to encourage independent thought and develop people’s knowledge and understanding in an environment that actively promotes cultural diversity, sport, arts etc.

You've clearly developed some distaste of the GAA, and transferred this to your offspring. How you could have picked this up in Canada or your child could have picked it up in the late 90s in N.I. is beyond me.

There's clear some prejudice there and a whole lot of ignorance. Move on, it’s 2013.

sill

saverbuyer wrote: »

Seriously, it's not a business so stop thinking of it as one.



These are your doubts and intolerances, stop trying to project them on others.



Well then others will just have to get on with it and A) learn some tollerance and wise up because it only a football shirt. Stop inserting your own twisted meaning where none exists.



It's not a business. It's University. You'll have trouble wearing a plain tee-shirt in some big companies.
As Tara said, you need to move on. I personally think this says more about your intolerance and ignorance and what you have projected onto your child than anything else. They are 18, they pretty much missed the troubles full stop, so stop trying to inform their opinion by projecting meaning on something where none exists.

I think most young people, certainly the majority who attend higher education, don't have the same intolerance older people have. They are willing to move on and see something like this for what it is, someone who supports their county wearing a football top.
You are using words like “astonished” and “shocked” in the context of someone wearing football top. Perhaps some time in a multicultural, multidenominational environment like University would do you a world of good.
It’d be a nice break from your bubble, I’m sure it’s warm in there with all that hot air you’re venting.

I have asked a simple question and others in this forum have been kind enough to give their views.My son was shocked as he went to both an integrated primary school and college where wearing any of these tops would not be allowed.As to words like "shocked and astonished"I suggest it might be a good idea to not highlight words unless they have actually been said.Can I come live in your world where there is nobody wearing tops to make statements if you truly believe that then I suggest you live in a bubble not I.

warmhands.coldheart

Right Guys and Gals..... CALM DOWN.........
Deep breaths all around............................
Now who's for a cuppa and a bun????

Cotta

warmhands.coldheart wrote: »

Right Guys and Gals..... CALM DOWN.........
Deep breaths all around............................
Now who's for a cuppa and a bun????

As long as it's coffee. :0)

sill

saverbuyer wrote: »

You grew up in Canada, your son completely missed the troubles and yet they are "shocked" and "astonished" at people wearing football tops at University for God sake. You need to get some perspective. You've clearly picked up some intolerance somewhere and passed this onto your child if this "shocks" an 18 year old at University. The whole point to the place is to encourage independent thought and develop people’s knowledge and understanding in an environment that actively promotes cultural diversity, sport, arts etc.

You've clearly developed some distaste of the GAA, and transferred this to your offspring. How you could have picked this up in Canada or your child could have picked it up in the late 90s in N.I. is beyond me.

There's clear some prejudice there and a whole lot of ignorance. Move on, it’s 2013.

Do you put words in everyones mouths are am I a special case I never once said that my son was shocked at people wearing gaa tops I said he was shocked at people wearing football/gaellic tops Not gaa tops in particular.Again how am I being prejudiced in asking if you are not allowed to wear football/gaelic tops in schools, colleges, bars , restaurants , or most workplaces why is it allowed in uni.It's a simple question that the majority of others in the forum have been kind enough to give their opinion on. You for some reason or another have jumped to the conclusion that I am asking should gaa tops be worn at uni which begs me to question your understanding of the question.Sill

sill

Cotta wrote: »

Your argument has been defeated, your child went to an integrated school at which Gaelic was played within the curriculum and evidently as with most school Gaelic attire was worn.

Sorry not at my sons school,the schools own tops with the schools colors were worn.Don't know about other integrated schools policies maybe others would be able to say.Sill

tara747

sill wrote: »

I have asked a simple question and others in this forum have been kind enough to give their views.My son was shocked as he went to both an integrated primary school and college where wearing any of these tops would not be allowed.As to words like "shocked and astonished"I suggest it might be a good idea to not highlight words unless they have actually been said.Can I come live in your world where there is nobody wearing tops to make statements if you truly believe that then I suggest you live in a bubble not I.

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sill wrote: »

Hi don't know wheather this is right place for this discussion but here goes .My son has just left an intergrated school to start uni in Northern Ireland and is in shock at how many other students are wearing gaelic/football shirts just wondered what others thought about this as most employers in Northern Ireland have banned there employees from wearing such shirts is it then right for unis to allow there students to do this. Sill

sill wrote: »

I understand your point and in an ideal world would agree with youBut we live in northern ireland a place which still bares scars on both side and no matter how much we would like to wear whatever we want both in work and outside of it as adults I hope we know the real problems this can cause .I really detest the statement only in Northern Ireland would .... We live in Northern Ireland a country that for years had a capital city that closed at 5pm so everyone stayed in their own areas.I work a lot in Canada and am still astonished at the way people think because things have improved we should all sit back and imagine everything is hunky dory. Btw why has everyone jumped to the conclusion i'm talking about QUB.Sill

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