Football/ Gaelic Shirts

NAR

sill wrote: »

I guess what I am really asking is in a society with the problems we have is this really the right thing to allow in uni which for 90% off students is a stepping stone to employment.Sill

A good question and I agree with your sentiments. However QUB students seem to want to sustain their "gang mentality" by wearing their sporting colours and draw others into their groups.

saverbuyer

sill wrote: »

I understand that they are over 18years olds and adults , I am 46years old and an adult yet I can't wear either a football shirt or a gaa shirt in my work so if I take on board all you are saying I am being censored which is surely an infringemant of my human rights. I guess what I am really asking is in a society with the problems we have is this really the right thing to allow in uni which for 90% off students is a stepping stone to employment.Sill

But then you don't pay to attend work. You don't pay your bosses salary. I didn't mention human rights, you did. You're certainly not being censored, nor is anyone else observing a dress code at work. But university isn't work.

I get what you are asking and I'm saying Queens University has been about for a few hundred years, they obviously don't think its an issue. They think students in a multicultural, multidenominational environment have maturity and capacity to deal with it. We have problems, but I don't put those at the feet of a 18 year old supporting his/her county. Only in NI would a football top hold such significance.

saverbuyer

NAR wrote: »

A good question and I agree with your sentiments. However QUB students seem to want to sustain their "gang mentality" by wearing their sporting colours and draw others into their groups.

Does the same apply to every other football|sports top?

What about the "gangs" sporting their iphones? Trying to draw people into their apple cult?

wifeforlife

My own thought is that the people attending Universities are educated enough to know that supporting a certain sport does not guarantee political or religious status anymore.

I know my own child attends a catholic primary and regularly wears her ulster rugby top, which back in the day wouldnt happen, times are a changing

sill

saverbuyer wrote: »

But then you don't pay to attend work. You don't pay your bosses salary. I didn't mention human rights, you did. You're certainly not being censored, nor is anyone else observing a dress code at work. But university isn't work.

I get what you are asking and I'm saying Queens University has been about for a few hundred years, they obviously don't think its an issue. They think students in a multicultural, multidenominational environment have maturity and capacity to deal with it. We have problems, but I don't put those at the feet of a 18 year old supporting his/her county. Only in NI would a football top hold such significance.

I understand your point and in an ideal world would agree with youBut we live in northern ireland a place which still bares scars on both side and no matter how much we would like to wear whatever we want both in work and outside of it as adults I hope we know the real problems this can cause .I really detest the statement only in Northern Ireland would .... We live in Northern Ireland a country that for years had a capital city that closed at 5pm so everyone stayed in their own areas.I work a lot in Canada and am still astonished at the way people think because things have improved we should all sit back and imagine everything is hunky dory. Btw why has everyone jumped to the conclusion i'm talking about QUB.Sill

sill

wifeforlife wrote: »

My own thought is that the people attending Universities are educated enough to know that supporting a certain sport does not guarantee political or religious status anymore.

I know my own child attends a catholic primary and regularly wears her ulster rugby top, which back in the day wouldnt happen, times are a changing

Am so glad this is happening at primary level but please remember how much hard work Ulster Rugby put into making this happen it wasn't a sudden change, it took years.Sill:0)

wifeforlife

sill wrote: »

Am so glad this is happening at primary level but please remember how much hard work Ulster Rugby put into making this happen it wasn't a sudden change, it took years.Sill:0)

Nothing to do with ulster rugby unfortunately. It's my husband and I. He's a rugby nut, I'm a GAA nut, my children get the best of both worlds

Hoping the next generation see past the labels put onto them by others.

Although I don't think I would ever want sports gear to be worn in the workplace iro of which sports. Can't picture my boss in a pair of canterburys :eek:

tara747

I have resisted posting so far, but reading sill's last few posts, I am left scratching my head.

sill wrote: »

Hi don't know wheather this is right place for this discussion but here goes .My son has just left an intergrated school to start uni in Northern Ireland and is in shock at how many other students are wearing gaelic/football shirts just wondered what others thought about this as most employers in Northern Ireland have banned there employees from wearing such shirts is it then right for unis to allow there students to do this. Sill

In shock at students wearing GAA tops? Some integrated school he went to. Is the little lamb shocked by rugby and 'soccer' shirts too?

Do either of you ever consider that some of them wear sports attire because, you know, they play sports?

sill wrote: »

I understand that they are over 18years olds and adults , I am 46years old and an adult yet I can't wear either a football shirt or a gaa shirt in my work so if I take on board all you are saying I am being censored which is surely an infringemant of my human rights. I guess what I am really asking is in a society with the problems we have is this really the right thing to allow in uni which for 90% off students is a stepping stone to employment.Sill

sill wrote: »

I understand your point and in an ideal world would agree with youBut we live in northern ireland a place which still bares scars on both side and no matter how much we would like to wear whatever we want both in work and outside of it as adults I hope we know the real problems this can cause .I really detest the statement only in Northern Ireland would .... We live in Northern Ireland a country that for years had a capital city that closed at 5pm so everyone stayed in their own areas.I work a lot in Canada and am still astonished at the way people think because things have improved we should all sit back and imagine everything is hunky dory. Btw why has everyone jumped to the conclusion i'm talking about QUB.Sill

sill, it sounds as if most of the NI population has moved on and left you behind. There is such bitterness in your words, you sound like someone who is reluctant to let go of the old divisions in society.

I am not quite sure what your point is, really. But I don't have anything in common with people who are stuck in the past. I like the new NI. Sure, there are a few loonies who try to cling onto hatred and bigotry, but they're a minority now. Thank goodness.

Apologies if I'm being a bit harsh, but seriously. Have a read through this thread again and ask yourself: what is the problem here?

tara747

wifeforlife wrote: »

My own thought is that the people attending Universities are educated enough to know that supporting a certain sport does not guarantee political or religious status anymore.

I know my own child attends a catholic primary and regularly wears her ulster rugby top, which back in the day wouldnt happen, times are a changing

Well said

wifeforlife wrote: »

Nothing to do with ulster rugby unfortunately. It's my husband and I. He's a rugby nut, I'm a GAA nut, my children get the best of both worlds

Hoping the next generation see past the labels put onto them by others.

Although I don't think I would ever want sports gear to be worn in the workplace iro of which sports. Can't picture my boss in a pair of canterburys :eek:

Ditto.

sill

tara747 wrote: »

I have resisted posting so far, but reading sill's last few posts, I am left scratching my head.




In shock at students wearing GAA tops? Some integrated school he went to. Is the little lamb shocked by rugby and 'soccer' shirts too?

Do either of you ever consider that some of them wear sports attire because, you know, they play sports?







sill, it sounds as if most of the NI population has moved on and left you behind. There is such bitterness in your words, you sound like someone who is reluctant to let go of the old divisions in society.

I am not quite sure what your point is, really. But I don't have anything in common with people who are stuck in the past. I like the new NI. Sure, there are a few loonies who try to cling onto hatred and bigotry, but they're a minority now. Thank goodness.

Apologies if I'm being a bit harsh, but seriously. Have a read through this thread again and ask yourself: what is the problem here?

Well thank you Tara glad you decided to join the discussion ,appreciate your thoughts on my "bitterness".I think you shoud reread my original post and notice the "gaelic/football" think others picked up on what I was talking about sorry if you were having problems with it.I for one would love to know what integrated school do you know who allow their pupils to wear football/ gaa tops oh sorry my fault should have said soccer / gaa tops is that better????.Tara I grew up in Canada so honestly am looking at this from a buisness point of view not a sectarian point of view.I have doubts that all students on their 1st & 2nd day of Uni wearing sports paraphernalia are thinking "i'm wearing this because I play sports ".As I have said we try and hopefully will eventually succeed in making our small society inclusive for all ,is letting uni students wear these shirts which at times can really annoy others honestly the right way to go.If you think there is no problem with these shirts try wearing one to work in any public place or any large company in Northern Ireland and understand why I wonder should students be allowed to do this.Btw he went to Lagan College the first integrated school in Northern Ireland perhaps you've heard of it.Sill