Challenging pay comparing against colleague

AP007

Southend1 wrote: »

From NHS careers website:

"Most GPs are independent contractors to the NHS. This independence means that in most cases, they are responsible for providing adequate premises from which to practise and for employing their own staff."

AIUI= as I understand it (apologies for lazy acronyms!)

That makes them private? I am sure it don't

AP007

Southend1 wrote: »

I know.... We will always disagree on this point!

And that non of them earn less than £29k - a lot more than your what was it 7.50 an hour.

ILW

AP007 wrote: »

That makes them private? I am sure it don't

Think it does.

Southend1

AP007 wrote: »

LOL Yeah ok no one I worked with was on less than £13 per hour and no on in a union!

You must seem to think if you join a union the company you work for suddenly get a unlimited purse with lots of cash in it

That was a hypothetical example!

Actual figures as follows....

In 2010 union members earned on average £14ph. Non members average earnings £12ph. Average uk wage £12.50ph. Trade union wage premium was therefore 16.7%.

Figures from DBIS.

AP007

ILW wrote: »

Think it does.

Well I know my doctor doesn't see private people at my surgery

Southend1

AP007 wrote: »

Well I know my doctor doesn't see private people at my surgery

GP surgeries tend to be private contractors - they see NHS patients but don't charge the patient direct as they bill the NHS for their services.

warez22

Today at work 3 members of my senior management had a meeting to discuss what was to happen next.

They are all fully supportive and are preparing the facts and figures to put forward to the MD.

I have found the experience very empowering and have found it very interesting what everything has had to say.

Of course the final outcome might not be in my favour but it has given me a sense of my own self worth and what I decide to do with that information is totally up to me. If this all works out in my favour I have made it happen. If it doesn't I can make something better happen.

I seem to have open Pandora's box with this one and there are obviously many points of view, not necessarily about gender but about the way that men and women generally tend to view themselves differently and act in accordance to that.

I will let you all know what the final outcome is.

warez

SueC_2

warez22 wrote: »

Today at work 3 members of my senior management had a meeting to discuss what was to happen next.

They are all fully supportive and are preparing the facts and figures to put forward to the MD.

I have found the experience very empowering and have found it very interesting what everything has had to say.

Of course the final outcome might not be in my favour but it has given me a sense of my own self worth and what I decide to do with that information is totally up to me. If this all works out in my favour I have made it happen. If it doesn't I can make something better happen.

I seem to have open Pandora's box with this one and there are obviously many points of view, not necessarily about gender but about the way that men and women generally tend to view themselves differently and act in accordance to that.

I will let you all know what the final outcome is.

warez

Out of interest, do you think you would have come away from the situation feeling just as upbeat about it if you had been handed a pay increase "because you're a woman" as opposed to because you took control of the situation, handled it constructively, and your performance and value to the organisation was recognised as a result?

warez22

SueC

No I wouldn't. Because it wouldn't have felt that it was about ME. They are collating information with regard to performance to show that I deserve to be paid the same as my colleague. The middle management are behind me and are validating my concerns. Gender hasn't come into it.

If it doesn't go as I want it to? I honestly don't know.

warez22

SueC_2

warez22 wrote: »

SueC

No I wouldn't. Because it wouldn't have felt that it was about ME. They are collating information with regard to performance to show that I deserve to be paid the same as my colleague. The middle management are behind me and are validating my concerns. Gender hasn't come into it.

And that, Southend1, is the point I was trying to make.

Equality should be about giving women the tools and belief they need to make them feel equal and valued, not giving them charitable donations that encourage them to feel inferior.