Brother borrowed 20k without consent

tinkerbell28

RuthnJasper wrote: »

Hi OP, I am glad that you have been able to go to the police with this, and you and your father (and your brother's, from the sounds of things, oblivious and now mortified, children) continue to have my heartfelt support. xx

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will come along soon with better counsel; but I can't believe there isn't some way of appealing against the delay from the police. The fact that the officer is moving house is his own private business - the public shouldn't suffer because of what the officer does in his own time.

Could the Social Services bod intervene? Or perhaps your father's GP could supply a letter that states your father (and YOU!) are genuinely struggling with this and that the repeated delays are having a detrimental effect on your elderly father's health?

Sending you many hugs Nananini. xx

To be fair, that will always be the case. Police are allowed leave, so cases will always get delayed, whilst they are off, or if they get put to the bottom of someone else's pile.

You can try and appeal and get ss to have the case moved...but it may make you worse off.

They may have given him the case because he is used to dealing with these cases, he may have already started on it. A month seems a long time, but if they are collating all the evidence for themselves and waiting on documents, etc.....it's not that bad I don't think. It's quite complex not an open and shut case of shop lifting, they have to get it right.

I think you'll find and would hope when they do get to your brother, it will move very quickly.

NinjaSavingKat

NANANINANOONOO wrote: »

so it will be another month before he approaches my brother!

This is so annoying for you. As your Dad will be classed as a "vulnerable victim" hence his money was put in the care of someone else, and the "suspect" is known to him this needs more careful attention.

Please ring the police again and ask to speak to the superior officer of this officer who is dealing with the case and ask him nicely why your 84yr old Dad with failing health has to wait so long...There may be a reason why this can't be passed to someone else but there is no harm in asking.

Showing up in person and demanding (nicely) to speak with someone can help as well...although this could turn into a wasted journey..

On another note other people in other organisations can't fob off customers with a house move - if he has annual leave to take there must be others able to help or at least take over expecially since your Dad's case technically hasn't even started yet...?

I know a little of how it works with the police and there is a fare chance you will just have to wait but there is no harm in calling and in some circumstances they will get another officer to start the enquries..

Good Luck!

NANANINANOONOO

Sorry you guys if I appeared to rant unreasonably earlier :0(

I know the police are extremely busy and of course have and are entitled to have their own personal leave stuff to deal with away from their work, its just unfortunate and the way it has panned out that dads case has come at a particularly busy time for the team incolved here.

Its always good to read views on here as it helps me get things in prospective and back on track.

To answers a couple of questions someone on here asked...
Yes it would be fairly usual for dad to see my brother a few times a month as he only lives about 10miles away from dad, so this is an uncomfortable time lapse.
Dad has had no further contact from my nephews & neice so I think although initially shocked they maybe now all be hoping dad will just leave it!
My brother still has no idea of what evidence has been collated or what action dad has been considering so who knows what he is thinking because he still has made no contact with anyone.

Thanks for your support x

RuthnJasper

NANANINANOONOO wrote: »

Sorry you guys if I appeared to rant unreasonably earlier :0(

I know the police are extremely busy and of course have and are entitled to have their own personal leave stuff to deal with away from their work, its just unfortunate and the way it has panned out that dads case has come at a particularly busy time for the team incolved here.

Its always good to read views on here as it helps me get things in prospective and back on track.

To answers a couple of questions someone on here asked...
Yes it would be fairly usual for dad to see my brother a few times a month as he only lives about 10miles away from dad, so this is an uncomfortable time lapse.
Dad has had no further contact from my nephews & neice so I think although initially shocked they maybe now all be hoping dad will just leave it!
My brother still has no idea of what evidence has been collated or what action dad has been considering so who knows what he is thinking because he still has made no contact with anyone.

Thanks for your support x

Sweetie, I don't think you have ANYTHING to apologise for.

I think you are amazing in the way you are dealing with this wretched situation. x

TTC40

You have nothing to apologise for.

Would you have usually seen your brother?

What has stopped you going to your brother & confronting him? This isn't a dig in any way, just wondered what your thinking was.

Or contacting your brother to ask why he hasn't been in contact with your dad?

NANANINANOONOO

TTC40 wrote: »

You have nothing to apologise for.

Would you have usually seen your brother?

What has stopped you going to your brother & confronting him? This isn't a dig in any way, just wondered what your thinking was.

Or contacting your brother to ask why he hasn't been in contact with your dad?

I would see or speak to him about once or twice a month.

I didnt contact him initially as I needed to know for sure all was true before I could consider confronting someone I have loved and respected all my life. As the facts unfolded I felt so betrayed and upset for both my dad and myself that I actually feared having to listen to his blatant lies face to face so I attempted to call him but he wasnt taking any phone calls at all. Dad did not tell him I knew anything so I decided to gather all the facts and seek help and while I did this I noted how long he left dad supposedly to his own devices keeping it to himself.

Over the weeks my feelings have gradually changed from disbelief and sadness to distress and anger. At first I wanted to seek a reason, find a justifiable excuse for everything but there is and can be none. My brother is not the person I knew, he is a liar, a cheat and a sly manipulative thief with no care for our father whatsoever. I have pondered conversations we have had over the latter years and realise he was actually grooming me and other family members and even my father to ensure his deceipt would not be uncovered.

He must know now from my nephew and neice that I know everything yet he has made no attempt to contact me so I can see nothing to gain from listening to his lies now or watching him squirm if I were to disclose exactly what has been uncovered...it is far better to let the authorities do that. I prefer to let him worry and wonder how I feel and I know I will eventually get my opportunity to tell him how totally betrayed I feel.

27col

From what I have read so far, I don't think that your feelings of betrayal are going to cut much ice with the thief who is your brother.

NANANINANOONOO

27col wrote: »

From what I have read so far, I don't think that your feelings of betrayal are going to cut much ice with the thief who is your brother.

This is the hardest part for me we have always been a close family and after my lovely mum died I always believed no matter what else life may throw at us my dad my brother and I would always have each other. Not quite how my brother saw things I guess :0(

NANANINANOONOO

Bad news...
After writing to dads (major high street) bank with a police crime number they say they cannot confirm exactly what documents were taken into banch or by whom and how or who in branch verified them in 2011 and faxed them though to the shareholders so allowing dads shares to be closed and the monies deposited into my fathers then directly into my brothers account. Apparantly the bank employee who verified them no longer works for the bank and they do not keep any records back to 2011 :0(

Not sure if that sounds correct - what exactly classifies a verified document?
The bank cant even confirm what documents were seen.

The shareholders were quite specific on the 2011 tape about needing to follow procedures and needing faxed through verified documents from the bank at the time before they could release the shares. They have kept the fax with the bank employees number yet the bank end itself seems to be quite lapse with their record keeping!? The bank just seem keen to blame the shareholders and reluctant to give any info yet the shareholders are being exstremely helpful and are sending us copies of everything. At the moment we just want to collect all the evidence we can against my brother to show how he did it.

crazy_crow

Oh dear, that is a nuisance. You would have thought the banks would have had to keep records for longer than a couple of years. :-(

I hope your Dad is holding up.