Lenny v the girls (+ Z, lmw and James) challenge lose the fat and the debt

sammy115

:rotfl: :rotfl: Toto - its morning so the bottom wind situation is under control.

I can't do slimfast anymore - its playing havoc with me! I read a write up on the internet last night that said the shakes were literally pure sugar and don't do much for your sugar levels - maybe that is why I have been so exhausted by the early evening.

I have gone back to falling asleep watching tv about 8.30 and its begining to frustrate me.

I am going to have to sign up with one of the slimming websites. I love the Slimming world diet but not keen on going to classes, and not sure I want to pay £60 for 3 months. I could try the weightloss resources website I suppose and combine the calorie counting with the slimming world diet. I am sure someone (Keren maybe?) mentioned a free website however as given that now I am self employed and not sure where my next penny is coming from it really needs to be free.

PAP - don't worry about the overconsumption yesterday - it's one day out of your life.

sammy115

Okay - have found a website called www.nutracheck.co.uk which has been set up in conjunction with Nottingham University.

Read a review and thought I would check it out. It is very similar to the weightloss resource website but slightly cheaper. I got a five day free trial and its £7.99 for one month £13.99 for two months and £19.99 for 3 months. I think if i like it I will go for three months, I should achieve a 10% weight loss by 22nd September if I follow the recommended 1,400 calories a day. That apparently gives me a 1lb a week weight loss. If I want to lose more then I should exercise more. You dont say!

A couple of things I like about it is you can put the barcodes in of food products and it tells you the calories and fat. You can also put in the pedometer steps you take and it calculates how many calories you have walked off - would be good for you Snaggles... (I bet you could eat a horse all the walking you have done)

Off to study my cupboards to see what I can eat now.

Keren - hope you are feeling okay (as you can be):A

Weller - still thinking of you:A

Spud - be kind to yourself

PAP - hope you feel better

ZTD

sammy115 wrote: »

I can't do slimfast anymore - its playing havoc with me! I read a write up on the internet last night that said the shakes were literally pure sugar and don't do much for your sugar levels - maybe that is why I have been so exhausted by the early evening.

Yes, Victoria Wood did an "exposé" on them a little while ago. She mocked gently while the head woman looked on, asking such questions as "How can you lose weight on it if it has all this much sugar in it?". The head woman was American, as it's an American company, and her bewilderment as to how to cope with faint mockery was the best part of the program.

It may have been there when I learned about it's "breeze" problems, or it may have been from when the BBC tried to do a hatchet job on Atkins - can't quite remember.

sammy115 wrote: »

I am going to have to sign up with one of the slimming websites. I love the Slimming world diet but not keen on going to classes, and not sure I want to pay £60 for 3 months. I could try the weightloss resources website I suppose and combine the calorie counting with the slimming world diet. I am sure someone (Keren maybe?) mentioned a free website however as given that now I am self employed and not sure where my next penny is coming from it really needs to be free.

Well here's some more grist to the mill - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5302054.stm

Burlesque_Babe

just popping in...

won't bore you with all the details, but apparently it is all my fault for being overweight, if was a size 12 everything would be wonderful. He would be sexually attracted to me and life would be rosy.

He skimmed over all the points I made with a shrug or wandering off for another cigarette and there is definitely no 'we' to our relationship in his head I feel.

He left after about 3 hours (turned up about 9.30) and will be back later. i'm going to see if anything has sunk in today, though I doubt it.

Food wise, I ate 3 mouthfuls of chicken yesterday and had 3 pints of cider.

Today, as Ihave a bit of a headache (stress and hangover I expect) I've had a jug of whizzed up strawberry and banana smoothie.

Lunch will be chicken in a wrap and dinner will be chicken in pitta bread with salad.

weigh in tomorrow. I stupidly got on the scales today and they say a 1 pound loss but that is probably because I (virtually) didn't eat yesterday so I'm guessing they will be back to a zero loss tomorrow when I officially weigh in, but as I had such a huge chinese on Tuesday that is only to be expected.

Thankyou for all your support, this is so hard for me as I don't like confrontation, but I was quite proud of some of the things Isaid last night - none of which he had answers for.

Snaggles

Keren, you deserve so much better than that, someone who loves you no matter what size you are. From the sound of it, your size hasn't changed that much in all the time you have been together, so how can he turn around now and say he's not attracted to you at your current size??? Obviously he was once, otherwise you would never have got together.

Being a size 12 wouldn't solve all your relationship problems, I'm certain of that. I know Stu would never speak to me like that no matter how big I was - if he felt I should lose weight (and he would probably only be concerned from a health point of view if I got very big - I don't think the odd extra bump here and there would bother him at all), he would just encourage me to eat healthily and would exercise with me to help me along.

You should be proud of standing up to him - maybe a lot of it didn't seem to sink in with him, but you have tried your best. Stay strong and don't let him wear you down or destroy your self-esteem.

Toto

Give it time Keren, he'll slowly start to see that he's to blame here, doubtful that he'll ever admit it in so many words though. Just keep taking things one step, one hour, one minute at a time.

I'm really proud of you too. I know how you're feeling so to be able to stand firm goes to prove what a strong lady you are. Please don't think you're boring us, come and chat every 5 minutes if you need to, talk it through and you'll see that we really are here to support you. I know we might seem like text on a screen but we are real people who really do care about you. If we lived in the same town I'm sure we'd all be best friends.

Let us know how you get on when he comes round later, what's he coming round for? was it his idea? When he does pop in tell him from me what a shallow prat I think he is, once people are fully through puberty they realise that attraction for a perfect body lasts all of a day if the person opens their gob and you find they are stupid and shallow.

My OH isn't mr perfect, but I'm attracted to the beautiful kind heart he has along with his ability to hold a conversation on every level. I couldn't care less if he's 12 stone or 50 stone. And I don't doubt you feel the same way. Your OH is a fool and he will learn this, he will miss all of the things that make you keren and maybe then he'll move out of the valley which separates children from adults and start to appreciate what he had
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moonlightpjs

Morning

Keren - you deserve somebody much better than someone who judges you on your weight. I was a size 12 when i married Andy and I am now a lot bigger and the only thing he is concerned about is my health due to my weight. It hasn't stopped our love life and he would never say anything to me about my weight, he would only say something if I did and he has never commented on how big I am, just to say he loves me, whatever size I am - I am still the same person he married. You don't need somebody to make you feel bad about yourself and to say it would be better if you were a size 12 just shows how shallow he really is, not worth anything. You are a beautiful lady who deserves so much more, Big hugs sweetie xxxxxxx

I have spent a sleepness night without a lump at the bottom of my bed when I tried to move my feet and a nudge in my face at 6.30 when he wanted feeding. I feel totally empty and can't seem to function properly. We got Oscar when we bought our first house together - a year before we got married. He was mine and I love him, we both did. he was 11 years old and I knew that there probably not many years left, that eventually he would leave us but i imagined waking up one morning and finding him, curled up and gone and I feel cheated that he had to go like this. I knew he would never get run over as he never ventured from our back garden so just thought he'd find somewhere warm to spend his last hours.

I can't tell you how I feel about the people that have done this, I just feel numb. Andy has shed more tears than I ever imagined he could and he is so very angry, hes thinking back and thinking he shouldn't have let Oscar get out of the patio door whilst fighting for the TV but he couldn't stop him, he isn't to blame. Odacr just sneaked out because he was scared.

I'm trying not to think of the bill we have got through the vets, the insurance refused to insure him once he reached 10 years old. They said they can send him to be cremetated wth other cats or we can have him done by himself and keep the ashes. we can't bury him in the garden as it isn't deep enough being a pretty new house and all that. But money, at the moment is the least of my worries, I just want him back.

We have told Sam that Oscar is now a moonstar (sams words for stars) and that he watching Sam all night when he sleeps. He seems confused but seems to be coping.

Thank you all for all your messages of love and support, it means such an awful lot but I'm hurting so bad I don't think it will stop.

Keren, take care of yourself hun xxxxxx

I haven;t read back a few pages so don;t know how everyone else is but I will try later tonight so apologies for all those I've missed xxxx

Snaggles

That's a lovely way for Sam to think of him Weller, you're doing a fantastic job helping him through this. I had to have my much loved dog put to sleep when she was about 12 years old, and I was completely devastated - give yourselves time to come to terms with it and allow yourselves to grieve. I look back now and just have happy memories of her, but if I sat and thought about the day she died, I think it would still make me cry even now.

postingalwaysposting

weller :A you seem to be helping sam cope and yes you will grive but it will get easier, dont worry about us and the diet come back when you are ready... make your family whole again and come to terms with all what you have been through (ie the burglary and oscar). Take care sweetie and you all know where we are if you need help/a shoulder

Burlesque_Babe

oh, Weller, your post about Oscar has made me cry. I feel so sorry for you and your family. I have a dog who is my baby. He is 6 now and lives with 'Dad' after I split from my ex. I still see him every day though and I love him so much. I loved it when he 'burrowed' under the quilt in the morning or I felt a little wet nose at the side of me wanting me to get up.

He stayed with me this week as 'Dad' was on a school trip and I took a few new photos of him. I've had them printed and have one on my desk. It was sad taking him home, but i'll see him in a couple of hours. He is an amazing listener, no wonder his ears are big, I've stretched them with all the talking I do to him!

The though of losing him at somepoint is something that pains me terribly although he is only 6.

A bit self-indulgent I know, but here he is

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa28/keren37/charlie_2007_b.jpg