Intellectual property owners and lawful seizure of 'fake' property in the UK

George_Michael

earthstorm wrote: »

their again something else MSE users seem to know more about that official agencies.

Or maybe it's just that other MSE users like to see verifiable proof when someone claims something.
There is nothing in the Trade mark act that states intellectual property owners have the legal right to seize goods that they think infringe their rights, in fact it clearly states that a court order is needed for this.

As you have something that you state claims otherwise, I'm sure that you won't have any problem scanning and showing this.

vikingaero

vaio wrote: »

TS have a statutory right power to inspect & seize,

I watched a programme on Fakes on TV where a TS confiscated Vodka that was counterfeit/fake. The products also had fake UK duty paid stamps.

earthstorm

George_Michael wrote: »

As you have something that you state claims otherwise, I'm sure that you won't have any problem scanning and showing this.

well i have a document that states i can and this has been checked and accepted as true by a GOVERNMENT approved consumer department (Trading Standards), so does not need to be shown to a bunch of unknowns on a PUBLIC forum that has no government status. Also the information contained in the book is the the retailers eyes only. I am not going to risk losing the contracts i have with the company by publishing anything from this file/book.

George_Michael

So you claim to have a court issued document (which is public domain so can legally be seen by anyone), which contradicts the trademark act, yet you are not willing to post proof of this,
I will draw my own conclusion as to why, as I sure many other "unknowns" will do as well.

Also the information contained in the book is the the retailers eyes only

Absolute tosh.
If it gives you the right to seize goods belonging to other people, then anyone has the right to see it.

ValHaller

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What you have alleged - a court order giving you authority to confiscate goods on your own determination that they are counterfeit runs so contrary to the general rule of law that there is a justifiable public interest in seeing this document. This country should not run on secret laws and judgements.

If you do not feel able to show it, then fair enough. But the fact that you hide this behind everyone here being a bunch of unknowns makes me think your pants are on fire.

George_Michael

earthstorm wrote: »

I signed a contract with the supplier and have to adhere to this contract in all aspects.

So don't post that contract then, instead why not post the court issued document that you say that you have?
There is no law stopping you from doing this.

earthstorm

It is a document that has a court stamp and signed by a judge and this has been checked and verified by TS as a genuine document, that gives the retailer authority to hold onto goods that are suspect to be fake pertaining to belong to the intellectual property owners. we then have to contact TS and the intellectual property owners. TS will then come and take the goods for further checking. We have only ever had to do this once and that was 2 years ago, which it was a clear fake

vaio

If secret court papers which can't be posted (even with identifying details removed) are being used in your argument then my vote goes to "pants on fire" too.

I'm even less convinced (if such a thing was possible) that TS have any powers (or inclination) to verify/check documents "issued" by a court in the way you suggest.

Apart from anything else, court orders invariably need to be against a specific named person and/or premises and can be varied or ended by the court at any time.

ValHaller

earthstorm wrote: »

It is a document that has a court stamp and signed by a judge and this has been checked and verified by TS as a genuine document, that gives the retailer authority to hold onto goods that are suspect to be fake pertaining to belong to the intellectual property owners.

But you are just another unknown. Judge? Date? Reference?

If it is genuine then there is no reason not to put it up.

shaun_from_Africa

earthstorm wrote: »

what rubbish by a TROLL.

it is not up to you who says what documents i have and what i can do with such documents..
I signed a contract with the supplier and have to adhere to this contract in all aspects. I have a LEGAL document that has been checked and verified by TS to what i can do and i dont take what a TROLL on a PUBLIC forum says. so i hope you enjoy being back at school tomorrow.

So let me get this correct.

You bring up the subject of a letter issued by a court, and you state that this letter gives you the right to seize goods belonging to another person if you suspect that those goods are counterfeit, bearing in mind that the ownership of these goods is not illegal in the UK. It is only the importation, manufacture of distribution that is a criminal offence.

When asked to provide proof of your claim, you bring up multiple excuses and aim juvenile insults towards the poster who asked you to back up your claim.

Then you have the temerity to refer to others as trolls!