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Person_one

wiogs wrote: »

A commonly held belief but not the case.

http://wingsoverscotland.com/why-labour-doesnt-need-scotland/

Very impartial website there! :rotfl:

What can I say, this sea of blue worries me:

VestanPance

Person_one wrote: »

That wouldn't affect anybody! You've chosen possibly the most inconsequential result of Scottish independence there!

What will really affect us is that it will make it much harder for Labour to win our general elections, Scotland also has a huge proportion of the UK's natural resources, and how will border crossing work and what would be the status of Brit living in Scotland?

A colour on a flag doesn't really mean anything.

Historically that's far less than you'd think, despite the almost given 40 seats Labour tend to win in Scotland. Since WW2 removing Scottish MPs returned from UK general elections would only have changed the outcome of three general elections.

1964: Labour win to hung parliament
1974: Labour win to hung parliament
2010: Hung parliament to Conservative win

It does edge things in the Tories favour obviously, yet they still campaign for the Union. It makes you wonder if Scotland contributes more to the UK than is reported, as politically it would benefit the Tories for Scotland to become an independent nation.

VestanPance

Goldiegirl wrote: »

It's a huge thing! We are internationally instantly recognised by the Union Flag.

Changing that would change our identity at a stroke.

All the other things are important too, and it affects us all - that's why we should all have a say in it, not just people living in Scotland

No, it's up to the Scottish Electorate to vote on that as they elected a party to the Scottish parliament with that in their manifesto. The UK still exists even if Scotland is no longer part of it.

I'm fairly sure they'd be happy to let you keep the Union Jack as it is. Pretty sure that would be well down the list of things on their mind. :rotfl:

Although going on the throw them out thinking by many in England the SNP would probably love for the English to vote on it, as they'd have a better chance of winning a referendum that way than in Scotland!

VestanPance

wiogs wrote: »

If Scotland did leave the UK of course if would have a huge effect on Scotland and the remaining UK.

Just what effect has still to be clarified as both the "Yes" and "Better Together" campaigns have been remarkably lacklustre.

There are currently no plans to break up the UK.

The 'Yes' camp know they should win, based on pretty much any opinion poll ever taken.

It's incredibly sad or more to the point concerning for the average voter in Scotland that their entire campaign is based on scaremongering about independence and not highlighting the positives of remaining part of the union!

Goldiegirl

VestanPance wrote: »

I'm fairly sure they'd be happy to let you keep the Union Jack as it is. Pretty sure that would be well down the list of things on their mind. :rotfl:

If Scotland was not a part of the UK, I wouldn't actually want a cross of St Andrew on my flag

I would prefer all parts of the UK to remain as they are, not because of the flag (although if it came to it, I think people would be upset to see the demise of the Union Jack as we know it. They haven't really thought of that point yet), but because I believe we are stronger together rather than apart.

27col

I could do without Scottish MP's being able to vote in the British Parliament for measures that will not apply in Scotland

Goldiegirl

wiogs wrote: »

How do you think your identity would change?

The Union Jack is an instantly recognisable symbol of anything British.

Internationally, a flag without the Cross of St Andrew would not have the instant recognition.

My personal identity would not change at all.

I would still be an English person, who is proud to be British.

VestanPance

27col wrote: »

I could do without Scottish MP's being able to vote in the British Parliament for measures that will not apply in Scotland

I agree with this, and funnily enough the only party that has self imposed that rule are the SNP!

This should have been included in the devolution legislation.

wiogs

VestanPance wrote: »

The 'Yes' camp know they should win, based on pretty much any opinion poll ever taken.

It's incredibly sad or more to the point concerning for the average voter in Scotland that their entire campaign is based on scaremongering about independence and not highlighting the positives of remaining part of the union!

All the opinion polls I have read point to Scotland staying in the union.

Which is not what the "Yes" camp want.

wiogs

27col wrote: »

I could do without Scottish MP's being able to vote in the British Parliament for measures that will not apply in Scotland

Ah yes - the West Lothian Question!