Civil Recovery Fine from Sainsbury's solicitors - Advice needed urgently

JReacher1

wealdroam wrote: »

Well we were told in the original post:

What else can we base our opinions on?

The fact that its highly unusual for someone to walk out of a store forgetting that they've a basket full of goods

Pollycat

wealdroam wrote: »

Well we were told in the original post:

Yes we were.
But she would say that, wouldn't she.

wealdroam wrote: »

What else can we base our opinions on?

We can read what the OP has told us and consider how this 'mistake' could have happened.
A number of posters have said they can't see how someone can forget to pay for items in a basket.

Just because someone has told us their version of events doesn't mean we have to suspend our own reasoning powers and believe them without question.

wealdroam

JReacher1 wrote: »

The fact that its highly unusual for someone to walk out of a store forgetting that they've a basket full of goods

Oh, I didn't know it was a full basket.

Thanks for that.

Money-Saving-King

Pollycat wrote: »

In post # 14 (page 1) I explained how I almost made a simple mistake.

I do believe that mistakes can be made.

Mistakes can happen but are often spooted as in your case.

Shoplifters can be spotted a mile off & I mean a mile off.

The classic give away sign is bad acting. They're trying to pretend they are shopping normally but get it all wrong. They tend to speak much louder than normal as if to get everyone else around (shops security in particular) them to believe they are normal shoppers eg "HAVE YOU FOUND THE TEA BAGS YET, SHALL WE GET SOME BISCUITS AS WELL". They'll be overly vocal, walking much more quickly than normal whilst having these "I'm shopping honest" conversations with someone else with them.

The above example I spotted in a local Tesco Express whilst I was shopping, blatant shoplifters, the security guard had spotted them and was obviously following them around the store.

But that's what I mean, people in the business know exactly what the signs are and what to look for and know whether it really was a mistake.

JReacher1

wealdroam wrote: »

Oh, I didn't know it was a full basket.

Thanks for that.

Well we don't know do we. That is what I think the posters point was.

You obviously read a partial amount if information and then assume you know everything about the case.

It's quite clear that not all the facts are present here so its difficult to form an opinion because this can be easily changed when (if) more information is provided.

OlliesDad

Money-Saving-King wrote: »

Mistakes can happen but are often spooted as in your case.

Shoplifters can be spotted a mile off & I mean a mile off.

The classic give away sign is bad acting. They're trying to pretend they are shopping normally but get it all wrong. They tend to speak much louder than normal as if to get everyone else around (shops security in particular) them to believe they are normal shoppers eg "HAVE YOU FOUND THE TEA BAGS YET, SHALL WE GET SOME BISCUITS AS WELL". They'll be overly vocal, walking much more quickly than normal whilst having these "I'm shopping honest" conversations with someone else with them.

The above example I spotted in a local Tesco Express whilst I was shopping, blatant shoplifters, the security guard had spotted them and was obviously following them around the store.

But that's what I mean, people in the business know exactly what the signs are and what to look for and know whether it really was a mistake.

And they also have a bag saying "Swag" and a balaclava on.

I think that anyone who works in security knows that different people use lots of different approaches to shoplifting.

JReacher1

Money-Saving-King wrote: »

Mistakes can happen but are often spooted as in your case.

Shoplifters can be spotted a mile off & I mean a mile off.

The classic give away sign is bad acting. They're trying to pretend they are shopping normally but get it all wrong. They tend to speak much louder than normal as if to get everyone else around (shops security in particular) them to believe they are normal shoppers eg "HAVE YOU FOUND THE TEA BAGS YET, SHALL WE GET SOME BISCUITS AS WELL". They'll be overly vocal, walking much more quickly than normal whilst having these "I'm shopping honest" conversations with someone else with them.

The above example I spotted in a local Tesco Express whilst I was shopping, blatant shoplifters, the security guard had spotted them and was obviously following them around the store.

But that's what I mean, people in the business know exactly what the signs are and what to look for and know whether it really was a mistake.

I think you'll find that a lot of shop lifters are a bit more subtle .

The fact you've spotted a few idiots trying to shoplift doesn't mean you can spot a shoplifter a mile off

Money-Saving-King

JReacher1 wrote: »

I think you'll find that a lot of shop lifters are a bit more subtle .

The fact you've spotted a few idiots trying to shoplift doesn't mean you can spot a shoplifter a mile off

That was just an obvious example. I could go on for ages but then with very long posts people will probably do what I do, read a bit, get bored then go on to the next post lol!

JReacher1

Money-Saving-King wrote: »

That was just an obvious example. I could go on for ages but then with very long posts people will probably do what I do, read a bit, get bored then go on to the next post lol!

Can people get bored reading the posts of a great detective:rotfl:

Pollycat

Money-Saving-King wrote: »

That was just an obvious example. I could go on for ages but then with very long posts people will probably do what I do, read a bit, get bored then go on to the next post lol!

The quote below wasn't intended for MSK but seemed to fit.

JReacher1 wrote: »

You obviously read a partial amount if information and then assume you know everything about the case.

:rotfl: