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  • shegar
    shegar Posts: 1,978 Forumite
    Arhh yea thanks for that , ive just clicked , its not andy again is it?.....
  • tokenfield
    tokenfield Posts: 257 Forumite
    woodbine wrote: »
    explain how they would know...
    its not the only rail card avaliable,and at the same price


    It's down to the honesty of the cardholder to return it when they realise that they no longer continue to qualify. That was the information I was given in 2004 when I contacted them.

    But as you say - how will they know - I suppose it depends on your integrity, goodwill and conscience.

    It is not - all of the other adult railcards are either more expensive or have more restrictions on the use of them.

    As an example. Most will only allow the discount when using off peak journeys. All will only allow the discount for the cardholder.

    The Adult Railcard gives the full discount on any ticket at any time as well as allowing the same discount to apply for somebody who wants to travel with you who is not disabled.
  • HB58
    HB58 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
    shegar wrote: »
    Arhh yea thanks for that , ive just clicked , its not andy again is it?.....

    Certainly looks like it!
  • L0RRY
    L0RRY Posts: 158 Forumite
    edited 6 August 2013 at 9:54PM
    disabled railcards are not always necessary to get the discounts. may not be relevant to the op (& is too late now anyway!) but may be for someone else:

    "If you are registered as blind or visually impaired and you are travelling with another person, the above concessionary discounts on fares apply for both you and your companion. You cannot get a discount if you are travelling on your own. Discount applies to adult fares only."

    "If you need to stay in your own wheelchair during a journey and you do not have a Railcard, you are eligible for the above concessionary discounts. Discounts are available on adult and child fares.
    The above discounts apply if you are travelling alone. They are also available to one adult travelling with you. Tickets can be purchased from staffed National Rail station ticket offices."

    http://www.disabledpersons-railcard.co.uk/travelling-by-rail/other-concessionary-discounts
  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,310 Forumite
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    nannytone wrote: »
    i sent the application off today.
    i find it odd that they require no photo ID
    whats to stop anyone allowing other people to use it?
    There's a space for you to sign it on the back. I never have been asked for proof of ID, but presumably I could be.
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  • P4ula
    P4ula Posts: 53 Forumite
    With regards to the validity of the railcard, I actually rang and spoke to a nice scottish lady at the Disabled Railcard Office.

    She explained that particularly with the changeover from DLA to PIP, providing someone has had a qualifying DLA award for a railcard, if they lose DLA on change to PIP, they will still qualify for the disabled railcard prioviding they continually renew the railcard.

    Should the railcard not be renewed there would be no right to one in the future unless the person re-qualifies for one of the qualifying benefits.

    I was pointed to the previously quoted paragraph(s)

    If you already have a Disabled Persons Railcard and keep renewing your Railcard, the new criteria will not affect you.


    and

    For full details of the eligibility criteria and acceptable evidence for new Disabled Persons Railcard applications, please visit our eligibility page.


    http://www.disabledpersons-railcard.co.uk/news-features/changes_to_railcard_eligibility_criteria


    refers



    Which shows that the eligibility criteria and need to supply relevant evidence only applies to new disabled persons railcard applications and not renewals.





    and also the terms and conditions page:



    http://www.disabledpersons-railcard.co.uk/buy-a-railcard/railcard-terms-conditions


    which no longer states that a railcard must be returned if one loses the 'qualifying benefit'.



    I think that is pretty straightforward in explaining that providing one qualified for the railcard when one initiially applied for it, providing they continually renew it they are entitled to keep it.


    Just because 'Tokenfield' returned his/her railcard in 2004, it has no bearing on the current entitlement to retain the railcard.



    Paula
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 12,993 Forumite
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    L0RRY wrote: »
    disabled railcards are not always necessary to get the discounts. may not be relevant to the op (& is too late now anyway!) but may be for someone else:

    "If you are registered as blind or visually impaired and you are travelling with another person, the above concessionary discounts on fares apply for both you and your companion. You cannot get a discount if you are travelling on your own. Discount applies to adult fares only."

    "If you need to stay in your own wheelchair during a journey and you do not have a Railcard, you are eligible for the above concessionary discounts. Discounts are available on adult and child fares.
    The above discounts apply if you are travelling alone. They are also available to one adult travelling with you. Tickets can be purchased from staffed National Rail station ticket offices."

    http://www.disabledpersons-railcard.co.uk/travelling-by-rail/other-concessionary-discounts

    i am travelling alone this time, so glad this wouldnt have applied!

    will be fun, its the first time ive travelled alone since i lost my sight!
    ( PA is putting me on the train this end, and my gag is picking me up from the other)
  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,310 Forumite
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    nannytone wrote: »
    i am travelling alone this time, so glad this wouldnt have applied!

    will be fun, its the first time ive travelled alone since i lost my sight!
    ( PA is putting me on the train this end, and my gag is picking me up from the other)
    If you need assistance at either end, then Mum's always found the train companies very helpful in arranging it: she's been met and helped onto and off the trains, even though one of us has been there at either end as well. It means they should know she's on the train, so that if there's an emergency, they know she won't hear any announcements.

    You have to contact each train operator, details are on this page.

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  • tokenfield
    tokenfield Posts: 257 Forumite
    P4ula wrote: »
    With regards to the validity of the railcard, I actually rang and spoke to a nice scottish lady at the Disabled Railcard Office.

    She explained that particularly with the changeover from DLA to PIP, providing someone has had a qualifying DLA award for a railcard, if they lose DLA on change to PIP, they will still qualify for the disabled railcard prioviding they continually renew the railcard.

    Should the railcard not be renewed there would be no right to one in the future unless the person re-qualifies for one of the qualifying benefits.

    I was pointed to the previously quoted paragraph(s)

    If you already have a Disabled Persons Railcard and keep renewing your Railcard, the new criteria will not affect you.


    and

    For full details of the eligibility criteria and acceptable evidence for new Disabled Persons Railcard applications, please visit our eligibility page.


    http://www.disabledpersons-railcard.co.uk/news-features/changes_to_railcard_eligibility_criteria


    refers



    Which shows that the eligibility criteria and need to supply relevant evidence only applies to new disabled persons railcard applications and not renewals.





    and also the terms and conditions page:



    http://www.disabledpersons-railcard.co.uk/buy-a-railcard/railcard-terms-conditions


    which no longer states that a railcard must be returned if one loses the 'qualifying benefit'.



    I think that is pretty straightforward in explaining that providing one qualified for the railcard when one initiially applied for it, providing they continually renew it they are entitled to keep it.


    Just because 'Tokenfield' returned his/her railcard in 2004, it has no bearing on the current entitlement to retain the railcard.



    Paula


    You missed number 15 of the T&C. It reads:

    When you renew your Railcard we may ask you for current evidence of your entitlement to it – if we do, your renewal might take longer to process.
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